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I have no issue with what he said. He knows where he is and has to prove himself every year. And he is right, we do put too much weight on where a player is drafted or how much a free agent was signed for. The investment has already been made in those players and there are guys in the front office and wearing headsets whose jobs are on the line if they are wrong (again) on that 3rd rounder.

That said, my family and I drove down to New Orleans last year and I had a chance to see Devito play live. He has a lot of work to do just to read and adjust to coverages. There were guys open all day on check downs and he never looked their way. He seemed to have made up his mind pre-snap where he was going with the ball. New Orleans would show him something, then take it away and DeVito was stuck. He needs to take the next step now or he and everyone else knows what comes next.

Can't believe I didn't see blue.


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glad to see Spags get the recognition.  His stint as a HC masked his talents.  Having talked with him in the camp Albany days, IMO he also is a fine man.  Glad he was a Giant.

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Quote from: BluesCruz on Today at 07:37:18 AMLets hope that does not happen.  Do you really want to hang your hat on Jones and Drew Lock?   Last year I believe DeVito pretty much ran the team in pre-season.  He started 6-7 more games during the season.   In that respect he is our most seasoned QB using 2023  data. 

He looks the part out there.  Jones looked tentative and lost before injury. He. basically could not move the team downfield.   I have no idea what Lock brings to the party.

There is definitely a bias towards tall, strong QBs- Tom Brady, Josh Allen, Eli Manning types.  That overlooks the fact Joe Montana, Drew Brees, Dan Marino, and Fran Tarkenton were not overly tall and populate the top 10 QBs of all time list.

In todays NFL you sink or swim with the QB.  I'd prefer to not sink because of tall man bias.

Last year, here was how the NYG QBs ranked (ignoring the return of Thomas and a general improvement of the O-line with Pugh in the line up) and the young WR getting better during the season)

Taylor 23rd with a 71.4 PFF grade

Jones 33rd with a 63.0 PFF grade

Devito 34th with a 62.0 PFF grade


Why are you putting all your faith in the QB who played the worst last season? 

Quote from: BluesCruz on Today at 07:56:01 AMNFL.com has Daniel Jones ranked 29th out of 32 probable starters in 2024.  How did we get in this mess?  With a 29th ranked QB your season is logically pretty much over before it starts.  Gettleman gave us Jones and followed up with Barkley.  Unless Jones re-invents himself he has to go as did Barkley before we can get back in the conversation.

Despite all this Im going into the season thinking playoffs. Somehow, someway we will overcome the problem

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-ranking-all-32-teams-primary-starting-quarterbacks-at-the-end-of-th-x3120

No one, not ever Jones and the Giants can say how Jones will play (between recovery from the ACL and on-field inconsistencies).  So how exactly did you and the NFL network determine where Jones is ranked???

8) TOM LANDRY
Although Tom Landry made his stripes as the two-time Super Bowl-winning head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, he was also an excellent defensive play-caller.

As the New York Giants' defensive coordinator from 1954-59, Landry was a true innovator. He devised the 4-3 defense, adding a middle linebacker and creating the front alignment still used in the NFL today. As Dallas' HC, Landry also invented the "Flex" defense, a gap scheme that allowed for increased flexibility.

3) STEVE SPAGNUOLO
Steve Spagnuolo, the top defensive mind in the NFL in 2024, could move up this list if the Kansas City Chiefs keep dominating the defensive side of the ball.

Patrick Mahomes is the best football player on Earth, but the Chiefs wouldn't have won their third Super Bowl in five tries without Spagnuolo coaching the club's defense.

Of course, that's not all Spagnuolo has done in the NFL. During his first stint as the New York Giants' DC (2007-08), Spags upset the previously undefeated New England Patriots, shutting down arguably the greatest offense in league history en route to a Super Bowl XLII.

He's the only NFL coordinator to win a Super Bowl with two different organizations.

1) BILL BELICHICK
He's not only arguably the best NFL coach of all time, Bill Belichick is also the top defensive coordinator in the history of the league.

Working under Bill Parcells with the Giants from 1985-90, Belichick won Super Bowls XXI and XXV as the club's DC. In Super Bowl XXV, Belichick's defense shut down Jim Kelly and the Buffalo Bills, who led the NFL in scoring in 1990 and had put up 51 points against the Raiders in the AFC title game. His game plan from the victory is now in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

After becoming the Patriots' head coach in 2000, Belichick was heavily involved with New England's defensive processes. He shut down Los Angeles Rams RB Marshall Faulk en route to an upset in Super Bowl XXXVI. The Pats also won Super Bowls after 2003 and 2004, ranking first and second in defensive scoring in those respective years.

Three more Lombardis followed in the 2010s, including after the 2018 campaign when Belichick's Patriots stifled McVay and the high-flying Rams in Super Bowl LIII. New England held Los Angeles — which ranked second in points and yards during the regular season — to a single field goal.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/best-nfl-defensive-coordinators-of-all-time/