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#11
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Andru Phillips, Kentucky,...
Last post by kartanoman - Today at 09:57:01 AM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 08:13:54 AMI get the bewilderment over the seeming focus on defense, but I feel like sometimes things just unfold the way they unfold in drafts, and you try to play the hand you're dealt in as advantageous a way as you can. Free agency is where you have more control, and the Giants clearly made offensive line a focal point in free agency. Yes, they also picked up a very expensive defensive player, but that was a cornerstone piece, and there aren't many occasions where you can get a 25 year old genuine star without giving up a 1, which is what the Giants managed to do there. The rest of free agency was all about offense (O line, TE, and RB), and they used their most valuable pick by far on offense.

I don't think they should have used a top 50 pick on a running back this year. I don't mind doing that if the team is better, but we just have too many other needs, and RB is a position that can be addressed in rounds three through five most years. Should we have taken one in the third round? Perhaps, but corner is a big need, and corner is not a day three position whereas RB can be.

I'm not saying what the Giants have done is perfect by any means or that it won't later be proven that they made mistakes, but I don't think you can go into a draft with a strict positional plan beyond the first round and really beyond the top 10. Stuff happens in drafts that you can't plan for, and good GMs are the ones who have different plans for different situations, not ones who are stuck on one gameplan and just take whatever player they can find to fit that exact gameplan, even if it's a reach.

Thank you for taking the time to write up this lucid, sensible post. Well done!

Peace!
#12
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Roger Goodell mulls 18-gam...
Last post by madbadger - Today at 09:53:13 AM
He won't stop chasing a buck until 50% of his former players are dead by the age of 40. With all that we know about the impact of head injuries you'd think that they'd be looking for ways to shorten the season instead of adding more.
#13
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Andru Phillips, Kentucky,...
Last post by TONKA56 - Today at 09:52:00 AM
Quote from: madbadger on Today at 09:37:12 AMIt's a term for an athlete that listens and reacts to criticism from outside the locker room, particularly the fans and the media. If he has a really hard time dealing with fans in Madison who are upset that he goes down far to easily for a 240 pound running back how the hell is he going to survive being ripped daily on the WFAN?

OK thanks for explaining that. 🙂

You know he's only 20?
#14
Big Blue Huddle / Re: If youre going to trade sl...
Last post by TONKA56 - Today at 09:51:25 AM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 09:20:42 AMI just don't view Slayton as a consequential subject either way, so I'm not sure why he's getting so much airtime this week.

He's not that impactful if they keep him, and he's not going to get you much in a trade if you move him. Either way I just don't get why he's such a subject right now. He is the quintessential definition of a JAG.

I think he's a notch above a JAG but he works hard and really wants to be a Giant. I don't fault him for advocating for himself. That's just a function of the business. Folks have a beef with him because he's has some glaring drops. Other players for some reason get a pass on that.
#15
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Day 3 - rounds 4-7 Best Pl...
Last post by Rosehill Jimmy - Today at 09:47:37 AM
Agree with @PSUBeirut .  The disparity among the various rankings is almost comical.
#16
From what I can devine from the draft so far

1) Offensive linemen of note, are depleted
2) Some top notch WRs still left
3) Only a few RBs of note are left
4) Defensive lineman of note, are depleted
5) Quite a few DBs are still available
6) No love for LBs this year
7) IMO - Schoen is looking for very specific pieces to build the Giants, not necessarily BPA
#17
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Day 3 - rounds 4-7 Best Pl...
Last post by Philosophers - Today at 09:44:14 AM
Leonard Taylor going from five star recruit to not drafted yet has my head spinning as he seems like an interesting mid-round choicd plus fills a big need at DT.

Giants need more explosiveness at RB as they simply don't have it.  I'd love to see them pick up Wright to fill that need.

I don't see any TE worth drafting as none stand out as a hidden gem to me.  All are plodders.  Would they look to draft Johnny Wilson from Florida State and move him to a role as a pass catching TE?  That would seem interesting to me.  He's 6'6"  and moves well for that size.  He's only been catching a ball for a short while so some development needed but I like his foundation.
#18
From The Atlantic

39. Jaden Hicks, S, Washington State (6-1, 215)
55. T.J. Tampa, CB, Iowa State (6-0, 194)
57. Ja'Tavion Sanders, TE, Texas (6-3, 245)
58. Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon (6-1, 176)
72. Spencer Rattler, QB, South Carolina (6-0, 211)
78. Austin Booker, Edge, Kansas (6-4, 253)
80. Theo Johnson, TE, Penn State (6-6, 259)
83. Jaylen Wright, RB, Tennessee (5-10, 210)
84. Malik Mustapha, S, Wake Forest (5-10, 206)
85. DJ James, CB, Auburn (5-11, 175)
89. Jared Wiley, TE, TCU (6-6, 249)
90. Malik Washington, WR, Virginia (5-8, 191)
92. Brandon Dorlus, DT, Oregon (6-3, 283)
93. Devontez Walker, WR, North Carolina (6-1, 193)
95. Mekhi Wingo, DT, LSU (6-0, 284)
96. Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, S, Texas Tech (5-10, 197)
97. Braelon Allen, RB, Wisconsin (6-1, 235)
98. Audric Estime, RB, Notre Dame (5-11, 222)
99. Christian Mahogany, G, Boston College (6-3, 314)
101. Cade Stover, TE, Ohio State (6-3, 247)
#19
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Day 3 - rounds 4-7 Best Pl...
Last post by PSUBeirut - Today at 09:38:53 AM
These rankings on day 3 are all over the map, which tells me that anyone who pretends to feel either really good or really bad about today is probably just throwing darts like everyone else!
#20
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Andru Phillips, Kentucky,...
Last post by madbadger - Today at 09:37:12 AM
Quote from: TONKA56 on Today at 08:49:58 AMRabbit ears?

It's a term for an athlete that listens and reacts to criticism from outside the locker room, particularly the fans and the media. If he has a really hard time dealing with fans in Madison who are upset that he goes down far to easily for a 240 pound running back how the hell is he going to survive being ripped daily on the WFAN?