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"Players like Bennett should have a price tag on their head because their world centers on do whatever you have to for the win."

The bolded is what the Cup playoffs are all about. It's a war of wills, combined with the necessary talent level. That's what makes the playoffs so compelling. Bennet took it to a limit. Ok, in return he needs to be chopped down like an old oak. The McAvoy hit in the opening minute was nice, but since the league sat on their pucks the Bruins should have found a way within the game framework to take him out. It's one thing to do what he did to a 3rd or 4th liner, but Marchand. The heart of the Bruins, and no nuclear reply. Really from the Bruins. Where's Terry O'Reilly when you need him. The only reply is a wipeout. Not doing so gives Florida a huge emotional edge. Hence the Bruins are down 3-1. I've been watching Bobrovski throuhout the two rounds. He's been really good, but is starting to show a crack here and there. Besides who would you rather face should the Rangers advance him or Swayman.
Look for the Canes to accidentally on purpose take a run or two at Igor. The Rangers tonight have to play their best game of the playoffs so far.

 

Quote from: Ed Vette on Today at 10:15:43 AMFlott is 6'0.5. He came out of College at 165 lbs. He's still a lightweight at 175. If Daboll likes him outside, it portends the type of Coverage the new DC will employ. He is not a Press Corner. Unfortunately, he has not improved over the years and is not only a liability in Run Support, he gets manhandled by bigger Receivers. Although he has decent back-peddle and fluid hips, he's not fast and can get faked out by jukes. He has short arms, small hands, a weak Span, and a lousy Vertical. His size was good for the Slot but his weak Run Support was an issue and I remember sitting with Bobby Skinner at Camp discussing the frustration with Flott. Of course, anyone was better than Darnay Holmes. Put him on the outside and he's going to get burned over the top and fall down and play dead at second-level Run Support. Saquon Barkley is licking his chops just thinking about it. Sorry Ric @Jolly Blue Giant, but you and I are going to have to disagree on this one. He's getting bumped by Phillips who will have the same issues but at least he's more physical although a bad tackler. If an aging Adoree was a 7, Flott is a 5.

I wouldn't argue that you're wrong (I do hope so, but that's hope).  I am somewhat comforted by the idea that Flott will need to beat out Hawkins and McCloud to win that job.

Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
The Giants will be celebrating their 100th season this year.

Among the activations:

— Naming top 100 players
— 100th season day at Yankee Stadium
— "The Duke" documentary
— 10 $100K grants being presented by The Giants Foundation

The logo below will be used throughout the season. Crazy details.

Zeroes are shaped like Giants Stadium. Shield is shaped like their first home, the Polo Grounds. The eight laces symbolize eight NFL championships. The figure inspired by the classic Giant skyline logo.

https://x.com/JordanRaanan/status/1790022997777981949

https://x.com/Giants/status/1790018675661000705

https://x.com/Giants/status/1790021680364220626

https://x.com/Giants/status/1789067898880757793

That would be a sad state of affairs if they blew a #7 pick on a sub-par OT, mediocre OG. How did the scouts get this one wrong? There was talk of him being the top tackle in the class.  Is it possible he is strictly a LT?  Did his skills not transfer to the NFL? Was the OL coaching that bad on this team? Or is he not as good as everyone made him out to be?

I think the Giants have two outstanding position coaches who have done a solid job developing talent

D-line coach- Andre Patterson
DB coach/passing game coordinator- Jerome Henderson

Both of these coaches have done a great job getting the most out of questionable talent

Then there is the imported O-line coach, Carmen Bricillo, who has never coached an O-line that was top 10 according to PFF

I think ILB coach, John Egorugwu, has done a pretty good job in the past 2-years coaching up the ILBs


Beyond that, I think the other position coaches have been average at best.

Flott is 6'0.5. He came out of College at 165 lbs. He's still a lightweight at 175. If Daboll likes him outside, it portends the type of Coverage the new DC will employ. He is not a Press Corner. Unfortunately, he has not improved over the years and is not only a liability in Run Support, he gets manhandled by bigger Receivers. Although he has decent back-peddle and fluid hips, he's not fast and can get faked out by jukes. He has short arms, small hands, a weak Span, and a lousy Vertical. His size was good for the Slot but his weak Run Support was an issue and I remember sitting with Bobby Skinner at Camp discussing the frustration with Flott. Of course, anyone was better than Darnay Holmes. Put him on the outside and he's going to get burned over the top and fall down and play dead at second-level Run Support. Saquon Barkley is licking his chops just thinking about it. Sorry Ric @Jolly Blue Giant, but you and I are going to have to disagree on this one. He's getting bumped by Phillips who will have the same issues but at least he's more physical although a bad tackler. If an aging Adoree was a 7, Flott is a 5.

On the best Giants teams we saw a player development progression where over 2-3 years they went from say marginal backup to a very solid starter or ok starter to impactful starter.  Look at Linval Joseph, Barry Cofield, Kareem McKenzie, David Diehl, Ahmad Bradshaw, etc., etc.

Over the past 10 years, that has really fallen off

How many players on the Giants current roster can you point to and really applaud their development?

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 12, 2024, 07:51:32 AMImagine finding a way to take a shot at Daniel Jones when you are writing an article entitled:

Ten traded players who will have biggest impact on 2024 NFL season



Rank 4
Brian Burns

New York Giants · DE
TRADED BY: Carolina Panthers
TRADED FOR: 2024 second- and fifth-round picks, 2025 conditional fifth-round pick (with Carolina receiving a 2024 fifth-round pick)


I thought about slotting Burns at the top of this list, and maybe I should have. Of everyone in my top 10, he seems like the safest lock to play like a star for his new team in 2024. Unlike Allen and Diggs, the 26-year-old is still squarely in his prime, and unlike Jeudy, he's a proven entity with a high floor. Burns has had a double-digit pressure rate every year of his career, per Next Gen Stats, and he should team with Kayvon Thibodeaux to boost a defense that finished 30th in pressure rate last season. The problem is, I could see Burns wrecking opponents this season and the Giants still stumbling because of offensive limitations. So, perhaps unfairly, he lands here, capped, in a way, by the lingering uncertainty around what Daniel Jones will bring to the table.

https://www.nfl.com/news/ten-traded-players-who-will-have-biggest-impact-on-2024-nfl-season



There are legitimate criticisms and concerns about Daniel Jones, and then there is an unhealthy obsession with seeking ways to put the man down.   The remarkable part is from everything we have seen of the man, he doesn't deserve the hate.  The man is among the hardest working (hardest luck) players in the NFL.  Yet there is this obsession with crapping all over him

I don't see it as hate and/or crapping on Jones.

I do agree with you that it was pointless to mention the offense and Jones as to how it pertains to the impact that Burns may or may not have in this upcoming season. What Jones and the offense do has no bearing on Burns' production.

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on Today at 06:51:14 AMThe NFL Combine lists him at 6'0½ / 175 lbs. So, if Giants.com is right, then he's grown taller by a couple inches while maintaining his teenage weight, which would make him look like a "walking stick" as he'd be even thinner than when he was 19 yrs old

Personally, I don't think the Giants (or any team) routinely measures and weighs their players and they definitely do not report it to the masses through a media source. Hence, the reason it's almost always done coming out of college in preparation for enormous contracts, so teams know exactly what they're getting (knowing full well programs lie...or putting it more kindly, "exaggerate"). Colleges are notoriously bad at telling the truth about the size of their players...especially basketball where they will call a 6'7 guy, 6'10 in the news or in programs. Regardless, teams misreport player physical data all the time

The military does a good job of measuring (used to anyway, they probably use DNA now). For height, they lay you (naked) flat on your back like on a giant caliper (think shoe-size measuring contraptions at shoe stores) to get exact measurements. Probably because they need the data to identify your dead body in the absence of other identification, should the need be. The combine uses similar methods, including lasers, radar, exacting tools, and other precision equipment, that are not used by teams. Once a player reaches the NFL, height, weight, etc., it is irrelevant and private info, unless the player reveals his personal information. I don't trust any figures released by a team, which probably enters into the legal ramifications of HIPAA laws, if numbers are even close to being precise

If I were to take a gander at a precise height/weight on Flott, I'd put it closer to 6'/190+ lbs. But that's all anyone can do because his real numbers are private

You may be right but I think teams pay close attention to ideal playing weights they want their players to be at and weight train them toward that number.  I would think whereever the player ends up is the weight they post him at each year on their website.  I may be wrong.

In photos he has muscle definition in places like his arms but he is not bulky at all.  He looks 175 to me not 190.

Former NFL defensive lineman Chris Long explains the challenges of putting on weight in the offseason, and the variation between nutrition amongst the three franchises he played for in his career.

https://www.the33rdteam.com/how-nfl-players-put-on-maintain-weight/

This got me interested in NYG's nutritionist

Stephen Smith RD CSSD LD
 


Johnson & Wales University
BS, Culinary Nutrition
2005 - 2009

Appalachian State University
Hospitality and Tourism Management
2004 - 20052004 - 2005


Texas A&M University
MS - In progress, Sport Physiology


Director of Sports & Performance Nutrition

New York Football Giants · Full-time
Sep 2020 - Present · 3 yrs 9 mos
East Rutherford, New Jersey, United States

Applied Sports Dietitian
Targeted Performance Nutrition/Fueling Performance
Jul 2018 - Present · 5 yrs 11 mos
Houston, Texas
Private Practice - Consulting, Program Development, Product Development, University Consulting, Research Consulting, Individual Clients

Texas Children's
Sports Dietitian - Adolescent Medicine
Texas Children's Hospital
May 2018 - Oct 2020 · 2 yrs 6 mos
Houston, Texas

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Houston Texans
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Houston, Texas

USASOC
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USASOC
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Clarksville, Tennessee Area

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