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Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on Today at 10:29:26 PMInstead of drafting Tracy in the 5th round do you think the Giants should have drafted Rattler, Platt or Travis instead ? Wouldn't that have more sense? Actually I am not sure if the Jets had drafted Travis in the 4th round

Why? Did they think any of them were better than what they already have. I don't think so.

New York Giants: A-

    1 (6): WR Malik Nabers, LSU
    2 (47): S Tyler Nubin, Minnesota
    3 (70): CB Andru Phillips, Kentucky
    4 (107): TE Theo Johnson, Penn State
    5 (166): RB Tyrone Tracy, Purdue
    6 (183): LB Darius Muasau, UCLA

Nabers — The Giants were linked to several of the quarterbacks in the draft process. Instead of packaging picks to move up or sticking at No. 6 to bring in J.J. McCarthy, they bring an explosive receiver into a receiving corps in need of talent. Nabers recorded 44 receptions of 20-plus yards over his last two seasons, second-most among FBS wide receivers.

Nubin — PFF's top-ranked safety prospect, Nubin is versatile and impactful. He can be moved all over the secondary and handle the role, as he possesses a high-level football IQ and can stop the run with instincts to cover on the back end. Nubin sported a career-best 90.1 coverage grade in 2023 (first among Power Five safeties) and allowed a 33.0 passer rating in coverage from 2021 to 2023.

Phillips — The Giants drafted Deonte Banks in the first round of last year's draft and now add more youth to that group early in the third round this year. His career-best 23 defensive stops led all SEC cornerbacks in 2023, and his 72.9 PFF coverage grade was also the best mark of his career.

Johnson — Since 2022, Johnson generated a Big Ten-best 146.6 passer rating when targeted. Over the past two seasons, he has amassed 669 receiving yards and 11 touchdowns.

Tracy — Tracy is a good athlete — he recorded a 4.48-second 40-yard dash and 40-inch vertical jump — and should add some explosiveness to a backfield led by Devin Singletary. Despite being a six-year player in college, Tracy has only one season at running back, and he forced 46 missed tackles on just 114 carries in that 2023 season.

Muasau — A well-rounded linebacker, Muasau racked up 137 run stops since 2019 between Hawaii and UCLA in addition to providing value in pressure packages, with 107 total pressures in that time. Likely a core special teamer, Muasau has the football intelligence and tackling ability to hold up in a rotational role in a pinch.


Full article with all teams can be found here:

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-draft-grades-all-32-teams

Quote from: Messiah717 on Today at 01:01:39 PMThe only negatives were too many penalties although a couple were weak calls.  Also, Panarin again held without a shot.  They overall will need more shooting and less passing against Carolina.

As evidenced by the Carolina - Isles game today, never look ahead when there's still business to take care of in front of you.

Let's get the Rangers over the hump tomorrow, first and foremost.

Panarin has assisted a couple of huge goals in this series. But the Z-man and Trocheck are on fire right now. Breadman will get his goals. If he doesn't, he'll help his teammates get that score.

Just remember the Rangers took two of three from Carolina this this season; lest you forget that classic 1-0 shutout in Raleigh.

Game four tomorrow 5 PM Arizona time!

Peace!

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 08:13:49 PMIt's all subjective obviously. Anyone can call a draft outstanding the day after it ends but that can prove totally untrue down the road, and vice-versa. Given how the Giants have drafted for the past decade, I don't think I would hand them an "outstanding" grade the day after the draft under almost any circumstances. They are going to need to prove it to me with these guys panning out on the field before I start trusting them to that degree. There have just been too many drafts in recent years that have woefully disappointed.

I guess if they had found a way to get a trade done to get Drake Maye, and I didn't think it was so absurd that I was opposed to it on that basis, I might have given them an "outstanding" provided I didn't hate any of the other picks. I happen to be very high on Maye's ceiling and would have been willing to take the gamble on him if it were possible. Apart from that I don't think I would have considered it.

Thanks for your explanation. I think grading the draft is subjective and kinda silly. If the FO thinks they addressed some of their needs, then they did good. And, I think they feel they did good.

It seems to me that the post-draft smokescreen is just as thick as the pre-draft smokescreen.

I think the starting RB position is wide open. Gray is probably pushing Singletary for the starting spot. Singletary, like Hodgins and Isiah McKenzie, are here because Daboll knows what these former Buffalo players can do. He is a placeholder who got a ton of work in Houston last season after Pierce was ineffective. The Giants have already cut Corbin twice, Miller is a project, Deon Jackson is a good receiver who showed he can start in a pinch, and I'm not sure why Brightwell is still here. I think there is space for Tracy to get some touches in the backfield as he develops. He can help on Special teams but I don't believe that is why he was drafted.

Supposedly when the Pats were on the clock the Giants offered their number 6, their second round pick and their 2025 first round pick and Kraft turned it down.

What would happen if the Eagles paid North Korea's hackers to break into the network to steal all of the Giants' draft proprietary data?

Don't you all think each team has their own intranet, managed by its own IT manager / Information Security Officer, backed up on its own secure cloud, and power protected by their own battery backup / surge protectors?

Let's not start the Ronnie Barnes of the IT department now!!!

Peace!

I thought it was a draft for need . The Giants have too many hole to draft the best player available . That said I would say it was a very good draft . My only comment is that instead of drafing Tracy in the 5th round , we should have drafted Platt Rattler or Travis . Maybe Travis was taken by the Jets in the 4th round and would not have been available .

Instead of drafting Tracy in the 5th round do you think the Giants should have drafted Rattler, Platt or Travis instead ? Wouldn't that have more sense? Actually I am not sure if the Jets had drafted Travis in the 4th round