Quote from: Ed Vette on May 15, 2024, 11:29:28 AMIt's not his fault. Blame all the DJ Hate out there.Blame the person who created the flyer and blame the person who approved it.
Haters gonna hate hate hate...
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Show posts MenuQuote from: Ed Vette on May 15, 2024, 11:29:28 AMIt's not his fault. Blame all the DJ Hate out there.Blame the person who created the flyer and blame the person who approved it.
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 12, 2024, 09:33:44 AMI wouldn't think you would consider this a Daniel Jones issue because Bellinger shined with DJ as QB in 2022. That was until he sustained a serious eye injury. Bellinger never was the same when he returned from that injury in 2022 and didn't regain his rookie magic in 2023I wonder if the damage was mental as well as physical. Could he be playing scared?
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 12, 2024, 07:51:32 AMImagine finding a way to take a shot at Daniel Jones when you are writing an article entitled:I don't see it as hate and/or crapping on Jones.
Ten traded players who will have biggest impact on 2024 NFL season
Rank 4
Brian Burns
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TRADED BY: Carolina Panthers
TRADED FOR: 2024 second- and fifth-round picks, 2025 conditional fifth-round pick (with Carolina receiving a 2024 fifth-round pick)
I thought about slotting Burns at the top of this list, and maybe I should have. Of everyone in my top 10, he seems like the safest lock to play like a star for his new team in 2024. Unlike Allen and Diggs, the 26-year-old is still squarely in his prime, and unlike Jeudy, he's a proven entity with a high floor. Burns has had a double-digit pressure rate every year of his career, per Next Gen Stats, and he should team with Kayvon Thibodeaux to boost a defense that finished 30th in pressure rate last season. The problem is, I could see Burns wrecking opponents this season and the Giants still stumbling because of offensive limitations. So, perhaps unfairly, he lands here, capped, in a way, by the lingering uncertainty around what Daniel Jones will bring to the table.
https://www.nfl.com/news/ten-traded-players-who-will-have-biggest-impact-on-2024-nfl-season
There are legitimate criticisms and concerns about Daniel Jones, and then there is an unhealthy obsession with seeking ways to put the man down. The remarkable part is from everything we have seen of the man, he doesn't deserve the hate. The man is among the hardest working (hardest luck) players in the NFL. Yet there is this obsession with crapping all over him
Quote from: AZGiantFan on May 10, 2024, 01:23:18 PMI hope there was no betting in that weight loss competition.We'll find out when we see the iced-out necklace!
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 08, 2024, 10:40:30 AMTim,I understand your point, Rich.
When the Giants drafted Engram in round one, Reese talked about how he was going to be nearly impossible to cover with that 4.42 speed. Yet, if you look at NFL's Next Gen stats, while Engram is the fastest (or top 3), his separation yardage puts him around 10th among NFL TEs.
That was my issue. Engram was always undersized, and his hands were suspect, but we were sold on the idea that LBs and Safeties (who usually cover TEs) would never stand a chance against him (because of that 4.42 speed).
Here is a link to Next Gen Stats if you are interested.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/receiving/2021/REG/all#average-separation
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 08, 2024, 10:28:11 AMYou are dealing with small numbers at 10 yards so even 0.1 is significant. I hope you appreciate that while Egram's 10 yard split wasn't "bad" by RAS standards, what it is is slower than what one would expect from a 4.42 40 and shows Engram's acceleration wasn't that good, which is why he hasn't played like one would expect a TE with a 4.42 40 to playI don't recall a single fan complaining about Engram's speed when he was here. It was his hands.
Quote from: Bob In PA on May 08, 2024, 06:31:26 AMTim: Right, but my point is... it's not conclusive that they are dissing Jones, or even dissatisfied with Jones.Bob,
Clearly, a high pick is expected to take over eventually, but it's still be Jones' job to lose (this year).
They paid him a lot of money. The only way they can attempt to get their "money's-worth" is to play him.
Bob
Quote from: Bob In PA on May 07, 2024, 09:49:54 PMTim: It is also possible making a move for Maye meant they'd rather have Maye than Lock (or Tommy). BobBob,
Quote from: Stringer Bell on May 07, 2024, 02:36:07 PMAnd yes, the rumors of trading up for Maye are telling. But what does it really say? That they really liked Maye? Yes. But not necessarily that they don't like DJ. Had that been the case, then they would have drafted JJ at 6 or tried to trade down for him, Penix or Nix if they were really low on DJ. I don't think we can call really liking a guy (Maye) an indictment of DJ when they didn't feel the need to draft any of the other 3 first round QBs available.
Quote from: LennG on May 07, 2024, 01:58:43 PMWhy do I never tire of watching that?He needed to make up for that first quarter interception he caused. That was Eli's only blemish in the playoffs that season.
Quote from: Ed Vette on May 07, 2024, 01:43:22 PMSo don't believe Schoen when he says Jones will be the QB this year?
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on May 07, 2024, 12:58:16 PMA lot rides on the season for Jones. Fans tend to think a QB should "take the game over" and become a gun slinging QB, and "make it all happen". The trouble is, the OC makes the calls, not the QB. Jones will do whatever his coach tells him to do as they design the plays based on the defenses he's facing. The last time I remember a QB calling his own plays (before the hike as well as on the fly) was Roger Staubach, who worked so closely with Tom Landry that their minds were like one. Landry let him go and run the team from the field while giving lightly controlled plans...and it worked. It worked because Staubach was athletic, but more importantly, had a very high football IQ that was inate to himJolly,
Jones will never be treated the way Staubach was treated, and he'll march to the step his coaches lay out for him. If he doesn't work out, or gets injured, we'll get to find out what we have in Drew Lock, and I suspect Schoen will be wheeling and dealing to get to the top of the draft for Carson Beck next season. We'll just have to watch the games this season and see what works out. My suspicions are that DJ is on a short rope. I'm rooting for him to excell far beyond the legion of negativity from an impatient fanbase. We shall see