Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: GloryDays on May 30, 2024, 04:22:21 PMi DON'T LIKE THAT MOVE... he is bright and he runs well. he will contribute on another team, if he doesnt go on our P S

I see what you did

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 06:42:54 AMAt least, that is my opinion anyway, and I feel that way about both our offense and defense.

Offensively, adding in Nabers will give us that electrifying, explosive pass catching threat this team hasn't had since Beckham in his first few years prior to his injuries and decline. No matter what you think of our QB room, this guy is going to be thrilling to watch.

I also think some of our other receiving talent like Robinson and Hyatt will be "unlocked" to some degree due to this guy being on the field. Expect to see both of them dazzle at times and take noteworthy steps forward this season.

Meanwhile it will be interesting to watch some of other young guys, particularly Tyrone Tracy and Theo Johnson. Both have potential to flash as rookies.

And then defensively, one thing I know is that when you have a menacing pass rush, things happen on D. Adding a stud like Burns to play opposite the ascending Thibodeaux, with Dex in the middle and with Okereke right behind them will give us a scary front that should be incredibly fun to watch.

Don't get me wrong - I think this team still has significant talent and depth deficiencies at a number of positions and is a ways away from being a true contender, but I am pretty confident that they will be more fun to watch this year, and there is something to be said for that.

I equate "fun to watch" with arrow pointing up mixed with the exuberance of football preseason.  I'm on board.

I like the fallibility in games, gives us fans something to blame loses on.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on May 23, 2024, 06:56:29 AMI bet whoever wins the Belmont this year beats that time by 20 seconds.

Yeah because the Belmont Stakes is 1/4 mile shorter this year!!!!

It must have been amazing to see this event in person. Must have been electric!

Not really that interested.

I love them!!

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 17, 2024, 01:53:25 PMWhen has anyone that is an actual giants fan in this forum rooted against Daniel Jones? Ever...

I believe this is the crux of the issue. Being hyper critical of DJ can and should never be confused with supporting him. You may say being critical does not prevent you from rooting for him, but I disagree. I contend that most folks that are hyper critical are more likely to root against DJ in order to prove they are correct in their hyper critical analysis. 

hyper critical equals "shitting on"
hyper critical not equal to constructive criticism

Quote from: Uncle Mickey on April 28, 2024, 11:52:27 AMMitch would have been somewhere between QB5 to QB7 of this draft

Not that I agree about Mitch, but what you are trying to say brings up a valid point. When you are drafting a QB and you are giving up resources to get him. You should be comparing him to the top 10 of QB's that are playing, not to other QB's in the same draft class. Because, the guy you want needs to be a top 10 franchise guy in your eyes, or you PASS.

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on April 27, 2024, 10:29:26 PMInstead of drafting Tracy in the 5th round do you think the Giants should have drafted Rattler, Platt or Travis instead ? Wouldn't that have more sense? Actually I am not sure if the Jets had drafted Travis in the 4th round

Why? Did they think any of them were better than what they already have. I don't think so.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 27, 2024, 08:13:49 PMIt's all subjective obviously. Anyone can call a draft outstanding the day after it ends but that can prove totally untrue down the road, and vice-versa. Given how the Giants have drafted for the past decade, I don't think I would hand them an "outstanding" grade the day after the draft under almost any circumstances. They are going to need to prove it to me with these guys panning out on the field before I start trusting them to that degree. There have just been too many drafts in recent years that have woefully disappointed.

I guess if they had found a way to get a trade done to get Drake Maye, and I didn't think it was so absurd that I was opposed to it on that basis, I might have given them an "outstanding" provided I didn't hate any of the other picks. I happen to be very high on Maye's ceiling and would have been willing to take the gamble on him if it were possible. Apart from that I don't think I would have considered it.

Thanks for your explanation. I think grading the draft is subjective and kinda silly. If the FO thinks they addressed some of their needs, then they did good. And, I think they feel they did good.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 27, 2024, 04:55:59 PMI went with average.

We are a way below average team that has generally had way below average drafts, so average is good for us right now. I'll need to see it to believe it for me to think this draft was better than average. I have plenty of confidence that Nabers will be a very good player, but any of us could have made that pick. The real measure will be all the other picks.

Just a question here. What would have had to happen to make it outstanding?

I for one, elect to support my team whoever the QB is, whoever the coach is and whoever the owner is.

 I think what was interesting was him saying that they have 15 guys as first round material.  That tells me he would not want to move back beyond 15 because he would feel that he was getting second round goods.

Damn....what a game!!!