Big Blue Huddle

Matt says he's thinking it over.  I asked him come on over.  Maybe you guys could give a try.  I sure wish we could get Chris to change his mind.  And, I continue to wotrk on eli10. 

THANKS for the best wishes, guys!  We've got a good bunch of guys coming over from the TAILGATE.  jaime & state are really good guys.  We already have the Chief, Stu & joeker.  I've got to get eli10 on here as well as boogie, Chris, resiliency & others I can't remember because I'm having a "senior moment."  Is that OK, Lenn?

BTW, about the game.  The 'Skins were consistently hitting the passes over the top of the LBers.  I'm looking for Witten to have a HUGE day.  I'm getting a little concerned over the DB injuries & also a new injury for Canty.

At this point in time, I don't think I can put together 25 games.  But here a few off the top of my head:

1.  Supe XLII...'Nuf said.

2.  NFC Championship Game 1/11/87...GIANTS 17 'Skins 0.  Was first til XLII.

3.  12/14/58...GIANTS 13 Browns 10...Giants had to win the game just to tie the Browns for the Division lead.  First play of game, Jimmy Brown ran 80 yds for a TD.  As that occurred, the first snowflakes started to fall.  Snow continued throughout the game.  Pat Summerall hit a 50 yard (?) FG late in the game to win.

4.  12/21/58...GIANTS 10 Browns  0...Complete dominance; Brown only had about 20 yards.

5.  12/7/58...GIANTS 19 Lions 17...This was AT the Lions.  The Giants had to win just to have the CHANCE to meet the Browns the next week with the opportunity to tie the Division.  The lead was 19-17 with time running out and the Lions set up for about a 40 yd FG.  It was blocked by Carl Karilivacz, a DB who only played that one year.  WOW!

6.  9/50...GIANTS 6 Browns 0...This was at Cleveland, the second game of the season, and my ear was intently on the radio (I think Ted Husing was still doing the games then).  What made this game so important to me was that the Browns had just moved to the NFL with the collapse of the AAFC.  They had dominated the AAFC, winning ALL four championships; they had Otto Graham, Dante Lavelli, Marion Motely, Lou Groza, et al.  In the meantime, the Giants had picked up Tom Landry, Harmon Rowe & Otto Schnellbacher from the defunct AAFC NY Yankees.  This led to Stout Steve to come up with the historic "Umbella Defense" which was basically tailored to cut down passing teams like the Browns. (Some say that it was really Landry who came up with that D.  But, I prefer to think that Landry & Owens worked together on it.)   Finally, the Browns had just demolished the Eagles, who won the NFL Title in '49,  in the opening week.  It was COMPLETE DOMINATION by the Giants' D!  I LOVED IT!  Eddie Price scored the only TD.  I remember that beacuse he got the start at FB as a rookie.

6. Supe XXI...'Nuf said.

7. Supe XXV...'Nuf Said.   

GREAT point, bama!   As a matter of fact, I just recently took Carthon off & added Hedge.  I certainly can't come up with a huge argument against you.  Leaving Mark Collins off was a problem.  But, I only have so many slots to fill.  Since I watched him, how could I leave off Landry?

weeze, I don't know if Lenn (who I like a lot) is older than I.  If he reads this, he can let me know.  Today is my 77th birthday.

Hi Tailgaters,
GREAT site!  Wet your whistle here then you can branch out when you're ready.  Any of you BBH vets, PLEASE join in!

OK, this is GREAT!!  We're really starting the TAILGATERS comin' aboard.  I LOVE IT!  GREAT guys on this  site.  Check out my last post on the TAILGATE.

Burt, that's my youngest daughter who comes with me to the games.  She's married now so her husband comes too.  I remember your telling me about Sgt. Levitow.  God bless him & may he rest in peace!  I'd love to hook up again.

joe, you never said you're an AF guy.  That just gives me another reason to like you.  Best of luck to your son.

Well, Lenn, this History section is dedicated to him.  So, he must've been some guy!  My hat's off to him.  I know I would've gotten along very well with him.  I LOVE Giants history!

Lenn, I had YA as my third QB.  And, he could really sling the ball.  But, he never won anything for the Giants.  When Eli came up HUGE in XLII, I changed.  Probably a little ahead of myself on that one.  "Chuckin' Charlie" is on because he was a leader & he flat out won games

I just loved OJ.  I had to put him on.  I DID originally have Webster on the squad.  OJ was a RB, Frederickson was a FB.  I had to go with Eddie Price at FB; GREAT runner.  Landry came to the Giants from the Yankees in 1950 when the AAFC gave up the ghost.  So did Rowe & Schnellbacher.  That was the year that Stout Steve put in the famous Umbrella Defense.  I'm sure Landry had a lot to do with setting that up.  Writers always claimed that when Landry was a player, he was like a coach on the field.  BTW, he could really punt too.  Chandler was really the best punter I've seen on the Giants, especially in clutch situations.  But, as I said, none of us are "wrong" because our picks are strictly personal.

Now, Gifford, who I call "Mr. Giant," was a special case.  Yes, I could've named him as WR too.  I could also have put him as CB because he made all Pro at that position too.  And, he was great on the HB option pass.  As a matter of fact, he was basically the 3rd string QB.

Hey Lenn, I loved my years in VT, but give a try in ME.  VT is GREAT Giants country and despite what the really sad Pats' fans say, there are a lot of us Giant fans still around here.  Go over to the History Board & give me your all-time Giants Team.

Maybe BBH has used this subject before.  But, being Giant History buff, I'd to see what posters would pick for their individual all-Time teams.  A couple of provisos I'd like to make:  It should be a 53 man team made up of players who have been on the Giants only since you've been a fan.  Second, don't try to make decisions based on players playing in "different eras."  We'll assume an even playing field.  Remember these are personal choices; nobody's wrong.  But, you should be able to defend your choices if need be.

As a start, here is my team:

QB - Phil Simms                   DT - Arnie Weinmeister
QB - Charlie Conerly            DT - Rosey Grier
QB - Eli Manning                  DT - Dick Modzelewski
RB - Rodney Hampton         DT - Jim Burt
RB - Joe Morris                    DE - Andy Rosbustelli
RB - Tiki Barber                   DE - Jim Katcavage
RB - O. J. Anderson             DE - Leonard Marshall
RB - Frank Gifford                DE - Michael Strahan
FB - Eddie Price                   LB - Lawrence Taylor
FB - Madison Hedgecock     LB - Harry Carson
TE - Mark Bavaro                LB - Harlan Svare
TE - Bob Tucker                   LB - Carl Banks
TE - Aaron Thomas             LB - Sam Huff
WR - Del Shofner                LB - Brad Van Pelt
WR - Kyle Rote                   CB - Erich Barnes
WR - Homer Jones              CB - Dick LyncBill Austin               
WR Amani Toomer              CB - Harmon Rowe
WR - Earnest Gray             CB - Tom Landry
C - Ray Wietecha               S - Emlen Tunnell
C - Bart Oates                    S - Jimmy Patton
OG - Jack Stroud                S - Carl (Spider) Lockhart
OG - Bill Austin                   S - Otto Schnellbacher
OG - William Roberts          P - Don Chandler
OG - Chris Snee                 PK - Pete Gogolak
OT - Rosey Brown              KR - Dave Meggett
OT - Karl Nelson                 ST - Reyna Thompson
OT - Karl Nelson
OT - Jumbo Elliott
OT - Gordon King

Any comments, questions?  How about seeing your team?

Hey Sam, great to hear from another AF guy.  And, also a guy from my own era.  When the Giants left town, I eventually switched to the Mets (but Istill rooted for the Giants til Willie left). 

And, Burt  ("the Chief"), I'm sorry I missed your post the first time around.

Burt had a really GREAT set up at Giants Stadium; the BLUE BUS.  Ask him about it.  He's a great guy and loves micro-brews.  I introduced him to Shipyard from up here in Portland.

WELL, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH:

I'm 77 and have been a Giant fan since 1946.  However, my first remembrance of the Giants was on Dec 7, 1941.  My family (we lived in Valley Stream  LI) were visting relatives in Woodside, Queens.  My brother & cousin were listening to the Giant/Dodger before they went into the Garden to watch the New York Americans in an NHL game.  I was playing a board game of some kind with another cousin when the network broke into the broadcast to announce the Pearl Harbor attack.  It took me another five years to pick up on the NY Football Giants.  I had first been a NY Baseball Giant fan.

I've attended Giant games in the Polo Grounds, Yankee Stadium & Giants Stadium.  I've been going to Giant games AT LEAST once a year since 1986.  Prior to that, it was fewer because of my youth, my career and my living away.

I graduated from St. John's in 1953 with a degree in Math; went directly into the USAF; trained at NYU in meteorology from '53 - '54 serving on active duty at MacDill AFB, Tampa (with several overseas trips) until '57; stayed in the active Reserve until retiring in '85.  In '57 I began working at Con Ed in their newly formed computer department.   In '59, I joined the  National Weather Service, working at Idlewild (soon to become JFK Airport); transferred to Burlington VT in as the Chief Meterologist; then came over to Portland ME (living in Gorham ME).  I retired in 1990 and still live here in Gorham.  (I LOVE IT IN ME!)

My wife, Marie, & I will celebrate out 55th anniversary tomorrow (the 11th).  As a maatter of fact, we were married in the middle of Hurricane Edna, a storm big enough that' its name has been retired.

I hope I haven't bored you all.

Oh yes, I consider Frank Gifford as "Mr.Giant."  MY two favorite players are Harry Carson & Phil Simms.

jimv - Maine; Sep 16th

Hi All!
I'm a moderator at TAILGATE and have already posted a few times here because I feel at home here.  As a matter of fact, I had trouble getting my account set up here and Rich took care of it in a flash.

I just read through the four plus pages of this thread and found that your opinions about the possible joining of our websites run the same gamut as those of our small group.  I can assure you that our standards match yours.  Pat is very strong on that.  We've had the infrequent slip up on civility and I've zapped them as soon as they appear.  I can't even remember the last time it happened.

It looks like win/win for both sites!

jimv