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Quote from: Dgoodmantrublu on November 27, 2023, 01:01:57 PMThe trades have worked. Brown on the Eagles, Cooper on the Browns, and Hill with the Dolphins. I do think if Higgins reaches free agency, he will be good for his new team. Same with Ayuk.

Agree on trades, but that is completely different.

It is only different because the teams decided to move a guy a year early. That why I think Ayuk and Higgins could be different.

Quote from: Dgoodmantrublu on November 27, 2023, 01:03:24 PMIt is only different because the teams decided to move a guy a year early. That why I think Ayuk and Higgins could be different.

I disagree that that's the only reason why it's different. In many cases, teams don't trade players because they realize they can't get enough for the player for it to be worth bothering trading them. So they just let them play out their contract, hope to sell some tickets, and ultimately let them walk. That happens with guys like Golladay and Allen Robinson. Teams don't let guys like Adams, Diggs, and Hill just walk away in their primes. And the reason they're not re-signing them isn't because they don't think they're worth it. It's because they can't, as they have committed to someone else (ie a $45mm-$55mm a year QB) and can't then also spend $25mm per on a single receiver and feel like there will be enough left over to fill out the rest of the roster.

So to me big trades (like the Hill trade) are very different from free agent pickups, even big name ones.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 27, 2023, 12:06:55 PMGood points. I agree that FA signings are usually overpays and frequently lead to disappointment relative to expectations. Obviously guys like Golladay and Solder are extreme examples of this, but you see it on the smaller scale too. Look at Parris Campbell for example. Some Giants fans talked themselves into a belief that he'd be a legitimately solid player for us.

The NFL has a serious shortage of quality O-linemen.   It's rare for a team to let a quality lineman walk.

I thought that there would be some reply from the list of Free Agent  RTS that I posted

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on November 27, 2023, 10:44:30 AMThese are from my research the free agent Right Tackles in 2024. Do any of them make your hearet flutter ?

Trenton Brown
James Hurst
uemunor
George Fant
Billy Turner
Kendall Lamm
Germaine Hedl
David Quessenberry

No, but I'd give two a long look, considering the circumstances: Turner and Fant. Bob

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 27, 2023, 03:39:11 PMThe NFL has a serious shortage of quality O-linemen.   It's rare for a team to let a quality lineman walk.

You see it happen though. You have to be ready to pay when it does. Joe Thuney is a recent example.

Quote from: Bob In PA on November 27, 2023, 04:55:38 PMNo, but I'd give two a long look, considering the circumstances: Turner and Fant. Bob

Having watched Turner recently with Jets, he doesn't make my heart flutter as much as he makes it stop!

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 27, 2023, 03:39:11 PMThe NFL has a serious shortage of quality O-linemen.   It's rare for a team to let a quality lineman walk.

Unless you're the Giants and you get rid of Kevin Zeitler

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 27, 2023, 01:00:03 PMI'm not in any way saying this is untrue, because it totally makes sense, but can you think of any examples in the past decade or so of a free agent receiver signing that worked out great for the team giving the contract and where it was a clear mistake for the previous team to let him walk?

Not saying there aren't any. I'm sure there are. Just struggling to recall them myself.

Does Tyreek Hill count?

The player I thought of 1st was Mike Onwenu.

Quote from: RelaxTension on November 28, 2023, 07:33:55 AMDoes Tyreek Hill count?

He was traded for five draft picks.

Quote from: umassgrad on November 28, 2023, 06:51:14 AMUnless you're the Giants and you get rid of Kevin Zeitler

Or Justin Push at age 27

I think a new oline coach does wonders for Neal. I don't want them to waste capital on someone else.