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Schoen must have developed temporary "Brainlock" when he picked this guy off the discount rack

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 07:59:39 AMBy all reports, the Giants made a strong effort to trade up to draft Maye but that simply wasn't possible because the Pats wanted him as their quarterback.

So here is my question.

Are you upset because:

A) the Giants didn't ignore their board and drafted one of the lesser-graded QBs on their board (in other words, they should have "reached" for a QB)

B) You disagree with the Giants' grades they had on the remaining 3 QBs, at least one of them had a grade that justified drafting them 6th overall (passing on a blue chip prospect like Nabers)

C) Neither A nor B, you are just unhappy with the circumstances (no "mistakes" made) that had the Giants come out of the draft without a new QB

Mighty, it's a great question.

Kinda C for me.

I suspect the Giants had a franchise grade on 2 or 3 of the top 3 guys. Maye was the 'gettable' one. I saw greatness and 'arm arrogance' when watching his film. He is the only guy that was 'gettable' that could have been a clear upgrade over the upside of Jones. But the price was high. Short of that, our next best scenario would be Jones reaches his upside because we got the WR1 instead and also potentially fixed the OL with a coach and a couple veteran OL. So while disappointed, recognize it might be a blessing in disguise IF Jones becomes the guy seen in flashes more consistently with the better support around him.

Quote from: babywhales on Today at 08:43:09 AMThe New York Giants are a corner stone organization in the NFL.  The TV revenue sharing agreed to in the early 60's by Wellington for the benefit and growth of the NFL is why the NFL is where it is today.

It was said The Duke was the heart and soul of the NFL and The New York Football Giants are not too far behind him.

Players might not like the taxes in New York State but players love being here and hate leaving.

You can go even further back, in terms of how important the Giants were.   Because they were in NYC, they had more revenue than other teams.  They could get all the new talent they wanted.   Yet, for the good of the league, they agreed to a draft that helped to create parody at the expense of their advantage.

Quote from: Uncle Mickey on Today at 09:07:13 AMTeam fixes OL or gets a dominant WR or both. Incumbent QB's confidence and production (if the QB is truly talented) suddenly goes up and is more consistent. Seen this rodeo play out too many times to assume our QB stinks just yet.

Believe me Uncle he STINKS and the stink will get far worse without the 700 yds running

NFC East TOTALLY UP FOR GRABS

Only certainty is we will be creamed in Jerryland for that one game

We will own the Eagles for a decade now    Their turn to suffer in a winner takes all back and forth series

Quote from: T200 on Today at 09:05:04 AMD) Neither upset nor unhappy.

I trust what Schoen has done and understand what he inherited isn't going to be fixed easily. He knew he had a tough task and he's up for the challenge. I'm just along for the ride. Unless and until he turns into Gettleman, I'm in his corner.

Tim,


I tend to share these views.   I started this thread because we saw in Ed's poll there are quite a few fans unhappy with the direction of the team.  I think it was a reasonable assumption that most are unhappy due to the team not drafting a new QB.  I was curious as to why they were unhappy about the the decision not to draft a QB.

Quote from: BluesCruz on Today at 09:02:15 AMJones is the "Mechanical Man". WYSG.  What you see is what you are going to get .... now minus the running with the bad neck and knee

Team fixes OL or gets a dominant WR or both. Incumbent QB's confidence and production (if the QB is truly talented) suddenly goes up and is more consistent. Seen this rodeo play out too many times to assume our QB stinks just yet.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 02, 2024, 09:30:04 PMLock has been in the NFL for four years (28 games), and Daniel Jones has been the Giants starting QB for the last five seasons.

When would there be a point in judging them?

Jeff,

I am pretty sure Lock and Jones were in the same draft class.  Jones was picked 6th overall and Lock was the 10th pick of round two.

D) Neither upset nor unhappy.

I trust what Schoen has done and understand what he inherited isn't going to be fixed easily. He knew he had a tough task and he's up for the challenge. I'm just along for the ride. Unless and until he turns into Gettleman, I'm in his corner.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 02, 2024, 09:30:04 PMLock has been in the NFL for four years (28 games), and Daniel Jones has been the Giants starting QB for the last five seasons.

When would there be a point in judging them?

Hi Dave!

When the Giants offense has something resembling an offensive line that isn't bottom 20% of the entire league in time to pressure and pressure consistency statistics and actually has something resembling a true top WR option.

That should be this year. That was Giants priority one this offseason. They brought in 5 veteran OL. Five. No rookie steep learning curve. They targeted and landed what seems to be an excellent OL coach. Someone who is a few tiers above the likes of Solari, Hunter, Columbo , Gugliemo ,Sale and the venerable Booby Johnson. Most those guys aren't even currently OL coaches or are not highly esteemed at all.

Spent a top 6 pick on a WR who probably ranks pretty close to some of the better blue chip WR to come out in the last 10 years and should be a day 1 high level starter.

Do they have this finally figured out. It seems so.