Looking beyond Kayvon Thibodeaux's 5.5 sacks

[kingm56]

Last year he didn't have many sacks, but a good PFF grade and was clearly affecting the game. People complained. This season, he's got a crummy PFF grade, disappears for portions of the game... but has picked up a good number of sacks and has been in position in coverage for takeaways (though hasn't converted). People are complaining.

I see a second-year player with talent who is putting up some numbers. Do I want more of the #5 overall pick? Of course. But am I going to kill the guy? No.

What intrigues me is the same posters who claim we need more than 60 games to evaluate our QB, are the same ones who labeled Thibs a bust, even though the latter has played 40 less games than the former; it's an interesting dichotomy.  Regardless, you captured how I feel, H, which is to say Thibs is a good football; however, like you, I'm hoping he becomes more. 

[Ed Vette]

What intrigues me is the same posters who claim we need more than 60 games to evaluate our QB, are the same ones who labeled Thibs a bust, even though the latter has played 40 less games than the former; it's an interesting dichotomy.  Regardless, you captured how I feel, H, which is to say Thibs is a good football; however, like you, I'm hoping he becomes more. 

He would have made a good second round pick.

[madbadger]

madb: Do you think the fact that they mentioned Number 5 specifically had anything to do with all the griping in the sports media recently?  Just wondering.  Bob

Wink doesn't strike me as being that type of coach. You get love from him when you earn it.

[Bob In PA]

Wink doesn't strike me as being that type of coach. You get love from him when you earn it.

MadB: I agree with that, so IMO we must assume it's a true statement, or at least Wink believes it's true.

If Wink's happy with his play, then I think it's safe to assume they are not emphasizing sacks.

I also agree with that. Pressure is more important than sacks, unless the specific game situation makes a sack more important, like, for example, if you need to move the opponent out of field goal range to avoid a game-winning field goal attempt.

Bob

[madbadger]

MadB: I agree with that, so IMO we must assume it's a true statement, or at least Wink believes it's true.

If Wink's happy with his play, then I think it's safe to assume they are not emphasizing sacks.

I also agree with that. Pressure is more important than sacks, unless the specific game situation makes a sack more important, like, for example, if you need to move the opponent out of field goal range to avoid a game-winning field goal attempt.

Bob

I think too many fans are either concerned with style points or expected him to be Von Miller or Micah Parsons and disappointed, and I think too many people are concerned with what he isn't instead of appreciating what he is.

[H-Town G-Fan]

I think too many fans are either concerned with style points or expected him to be Von Miller or Micah Parsons and disappointed, and I think too many people are concerned with what he isn't instead of appreciating what he is.

The Giants definitely need stars. But they also desperately need above-average contributors (given how thin the roster was under Gentleman). At least Kayvon looks to be able to be the latter with the potential for more.

[Bob In PA]

The Giants definitely need stars. But they also desperately need above-average contributors (given how thin the roster was under Gentleman). At least Kayvon looks to be able to be the latter with the potential for more.

H-Town: I can't "like" this post enough. Bob

[andrew_nyGiants]

I wonder how those WFAN guys feel about the way they treated Carl now?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[madbadger]

He's having his best game of his young career today.

[DaveBrown74]

He's having his best game of his young career today.

This or the game in Washington last year. He was off the charts in that game too.

[Ed Vette]

He's having his best game of his young career today.

For sure. He's a mudder.

[madbadger]

For sure. He's a mudder.

I think he's much more than a mudder.

[EDjohnst1981]

Wrong thread. Edited.

[Ed Vette]

I give him a 99 PFF grade so far. Don't drop the ball!

[katkavage]

Players sometimes do develop and learn from experience.