A QB Formula That Works in the NFL, Giants Must Follow Suit

[brownelvis54]

Basically, we need to trade up and let him sit

[DaveBrown74]

If the Bears take a QB first overall, which the odds seem to be that they will, then there is no trade-up to be had, unfortunately. I wish that weren't true, but it flat out is.

[katkavage]

Good thing Tiki is not a GM. He has no clue.

[Ed Vette]

Is he cold?

[Jclayton92]

If the Bears take a QB first overall, which the odds seem to be that they will, then there is no trade-up to be had, unfortunately. I wish that weren't true, but it flat out is.

Bears might hire Kingsbury as oc for Williams.

[Ed Vette]

Actually it was a good discussion.

[katkavage]

Anything can go wrong. You can't draft scared. It's a risk business. Tiki forgets the Giants traded up to get Eli. I have no issue if Schoen feels strongly enough to do so to get his man. I really doubt very much that Jones will be football ready before October. Something has to be done.

[brownelvis54]

If the Bears take a QB first overall, which the odds seem to be that they will, then there is no trade-up to be had, unfortunately. I wish that weren't true, but it flat out is.

The Bears have a huge say on weather we get a QB or not. For sure Washington and Patriots are getting one, Chargers won't get a QB, and Arizona probably will stick with Murrey, hopefuly the Bears stick with fields and get a WR and O-line help, or a WR and a TE.

[jimc]

Anything can go wrong. You can't draft scared. It's a risk business. Tiki forgets the Giants traded up to get Eli. I have no issue if Schoen feels strongly enough to do so to get his man. I really doubt very much that Jones will be football ready before October. Something has to be done.

Didn't the Chargers draft Eli first and then traded him to the Giants ?

[DaveBrown74]

Didn't the Chargers draft Eli first and then traded him to the Giants ?

Yes, that's right. There are pictures of Eli holding up a Chargers jersey at the draft. The trade occurred after that. It wasn't technically a trade-up (although in effect it was).

[jimc]

Yes, that's right. There are pictures of Eli holding up a Chargers jersey at the draft. The trade occurred after that. It wasn't technically a trade-up (although in effect it was).

Semantics, I guess

[MightyGiants]

I feel dumber from having listened to the idiot on the left.  At least Tike made some sense.

[Gmo11]

The Bears have a huge say on weather we get a QB or not. For sure Washington and Patriots are getting one, Chargers won't get a QB, and Arizona probably will stick with Murrey, hopefuly the Bears stick with fields and get a WR and O-line help, or a WR and a TE.

Even if the bears decide to keep fields...and I don't think they will...they will trade that pick to somebody who will take Caleb. It could be the Pats or Commies in which case nothing changes for the Giants unless they decide to try and trade with the bears again at that point.  Or the bears could trade Caleb to a team like the falcons in which case it eliminates pretty much any chance of the Giants getting a QB in round 1. But there is no world in which anybody other than Caleb Williams goes #1 unless he gets hurt between now and then.

[brownelvis54]

Even if the bears decide to keep fields...and I don't think they will...they will trade that pick to somebody who will take Caleb. It could be the Pats or Commies in which case nothing changes for the Giants unless they decide to try and trade with the bears again at that point.  Or the bears could trade Caleb to a team like the falcons in which case it eliminates pretty much any chance of the Giants getting a QB in round 1. But there is no world in which anybody other than Caleb Williams goes #1 unless he gets hurt between now and then.

There are several reports on Belichick going to the Falcons and Kirk Cousens playing there as well. Vikings seem to want Pinex in the draft. As of now its speculation, but many articles on it.


https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/could-kirk-cousins-bill-belichick-partner-up-with-the-falcons




https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10105835-vikings-kirk-cousins-open-to-playing-for-bill-belichick-amid-hcs-links-to-falcons



https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/could_kirk_cousins_be_the_falcons_answer_at_quarterback/s1_13132_39836187



https://www.sportstalkatl.com/falcons-kirk-cousins-would-relish-the-chance-to-play-with-bill-belichick/

[Painter]

Personally, I don't see the Giants taking a QB anywhere in this Draft. Schoen's focus, I believe, will be to go all out with Jones this year so as to decide unequivocally whether they should move on next year when the caponomics will be far less onerous. As for QB2, it could be DeVito, or some FA for which I would not exclude TT.

Clearly, I don't see the Giants looking to move up, but I can see them swapping back a couple or three slots if it gets them from the current 4 to 5 picks the first 2 days. Top priorities: WR/OL and/or OL/WR/DB/DT. Upgrading the talent on Offense has to be given priority whether to enhance DJ's chance of success this year or that of whomever succeeds him next year.

Cheers!