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Started by Ed Vette, February 24, 2024, 08:17:07 PM

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Philosophers

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on February 25, 2024, 06:42:22 PMLet's not overstate the value of a second round pick. The last three second rounders are JMS, Wandale, and Azeez. Anyone in their right mind would trade those three guys for a legitimate franchise QB prospect.

Second round picks are valuable, but let's not kid ourselves on how much they're actually worth.

Well seconds rounds have also produced Michael Strahan, Rob Gronkowski, Derrick Henry, Drew Brees, Brett Favre

Doc16LT56

Quote from: Philosophers on February 25, 2024, 07:11:11 PMWell seconds rounds have also produced Michael Strahan, Rob Gronkowski, Derrick Henry, Drew Brees, Brett Favre
getting those guys is like winning the lottery lol. Good luck if that's your plan

Brooklyn Dave

Quote from: Jclayton92 on February 25, 2024, 04:27:21 PMSo then what is your answer to our glaring Qb problem, Jones?

Also KC didn't need a #1 Wr because they have Mahomes, and the best weapon in football in Travis Kelce.

The 49ers had 2 elite wrs, #2 TE in football, the #1 RB and FB in football and the best defense and still couldn't beat Mahomes... so is it really fair to compare anything we have going on to what the best player this decade has?

Also KC had an average offensive line by most metrics, far from elite.

Solving the offensive line does not however solve Jones primary problem, his processing and reading defenses at the NFL level. He can't do it which is why NFL defenses have solved him, and why all we see on Sundays is 5-7 yards passes with Jones but deep shots when any other QB takes over.

Just because Jones has to be on the roster does not mean Schoen and Daboll are going to be the 3rd Hc and 2nd GM to lose their jobs risking their future with him. As Schoen stated clearly at the first convenient moment he had once the season ended, that they will be pursuing a Qb this offseason.

Also selecting a tackle for The 3rd time in the top 10 in 5 years is a horrible waste of resources especially while not knowing what you have in the 2nd one you drafted.

Maybe he threw 5-7 yard passes because that was called for him or maybe with our elite OL he had no time to set up in the pocket.

I am not sure what your point is . Are you advocating trading up to get one of the three QBS or are you saying if one of them fall to 6 we should draft him , which is it ?

If you are saying that in your opinion we should draft a WR , Nabers or Odunze etc. instead of Alt, that is a discussion and there are many here who would agree with you , I am just not one of them.

EDjohnst1981

Quote from: Philosophers on February 25, 2024, 07:11:11 PMWell seconds rounds have also produced Michael Strahan, Rob Gronkowski, Derrick Henry, Drew Brees, Brett Favre

They also produce Clint Sintim, Ruben Randle, Marvin Austin and Sinorice Moss.

Much like the rest of the draft, there's no sure things.

Brooklyn Dave

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on February 26, 2024, 07:07:28 AMThey also produce Clint Sintim, Ruben Randle, Marvin Austin and Sinorice Moss.

Much like the rest of the draft, there's no sure things.

Agree