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Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 02:31:17 PMHere were a few more flashes


Jones was the first rookie quarterback in NFL history with 2 games of 300+ passing yards and 4+ touchdown passes – and he had 3 of them.


Jones' 24 touchdown passes led all rookie quarterbacks in 2019 and were the 4th-most by a rookie in a single season in NFL history...Only Baker Mayfield (27 in 2018), Peyton Manning (26 in 1998) and Russell Wilson (26 in 2012) had more.

Jones was the 5th rookie in NFL history to throw 5 touchdown passes in a game...The others were Detroit's Matthew Stafford vs. Cleveland on Nov. 22, 2009; Tampa Bay's Jameis Winston at Philadelphia on Nov. 22, 2015; and Houston's Deshaun Watson vs. Kansas City on Oct. 8, 2017 and Ray Buivid, who played for the Chicago Bears in 1937-38...On Dec. 5, 1937, he threw 5 touchdown passes in the season finale in Wrigley Field vs. the Chicago Cardinals.

Jones joined Dallas' Dak Prescott (twice in 2016) as the only rookie quarterbacks in NFL history with 2 games of at least 300 passing yards, 2 touchdown passes and zero interceptions...The game in Washington was Jones' 3rd with at least 4 touchdown passes...The only other rookies in NFL history to do that were Watson and Pro Football Hall of Famer Fran Tarkenton in 1961.

Passing attempts:
1,872
Passing completions:
1,200
Completion percentage:
64.1%
TD–INT:
72–48
Passing yards:
12,536
Passer rating:
85.5

Career history

* Pro Bowl (2018)
* Third-team All-ACC (2016)

DANIEL JONES
Passing attempts:
1,900
Passing completions:
1,221
Completion percentage:
64.3%
TD–INT:
62–40
Passing yards:
12,512
Passer rating:
85.2
Rushing yards:
1,914
Rushing touchdowns:
13

Career history
* New York Giants (2019–present)
Roster status:
Active


Almost identical numbers, except Mitch has a pro bowl to his name and some college accolades.  DJ has Active player.

I'm not saying Mitch is better, but he had equal 'flashes.' Again, they are no tangible examples in 25 years, and only 1 in 40 years that support your supposition. Why do you think there are Limited, to no tangible examples?

 I do appreciate the time supporting your positions.

I am going to add an observation I think is reasonably on topic. What is a really great driver of an offense is a long-time pairing of a receiver (WR or TE) with a quarterback. I think the longer the pair works together, the better they get.

honestly surprised he's still around. however, miami is a great landing place for him as they already have some really good receivers, and he wont need to be the go to guy

Quote from: PSUBeirut on Today at 12:44:35 PMThe second you use the word "great" the answer is quarterback.  I could see a real argument around good/very good WR vs. good/very good QB- but the great QBs are definitely much more important to their teams than great WRs. 

Rodgers comes to mind. he had some decent wr's at times (nelson, adams), but for the most part he was playing with guys that you couldn't remember a few years later.

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 11:24:44 AMI agree, although some will point to the Bengals SB run as proof you don't need a line.  I would counter by saying they haven't sniffed the SB since, and their QB is frequently injured.

An elite qb and elite receiver can certainly help circumvent line issues. but as you pointed out, dont expect it to last

Quote from: BluesCruz on Today at 10:06:39 AMWell...... based upon Tom Bradys rotisserie of average WRs playing way above their heads, you have to go with the QB position

"The clothes" do not make the man....never believed that old saying

for sure...but he also had a good to great oline most of his career, and the perfect system for him to work in. think about how many guys they were able to swap out like edelman and welker over the years basically seamlessly. the system you are in can be just as important as the people executing it. save for the randy moss years, tom was never exactly airing it out. he was hitting guys underneath that could pick up YAC.

Quote from: spiderblue43 on Today at 03:10:46 PMOBJ now is in prime position for another boat party in the bay. Hello again South Beach ⛱️ 😎

"Hello Yacht Club, my old friend..." 

We've had next to no mid to late round hits in 15 plus years, which is why we have been stuck in the mud as a franchise.

FRIDAY, May 3, 2024 (HealthDay News) -- Primates are capable of tending to wounds using medicinal plants, a new case report says.

A male Sumatran orangutan treated a facial wound with a climbing plant known to have anti-inflammatory and pain-relieving properties, researchers say in the journal Scientific Reports.

The orangutan, named Rakus by observers, plucked leaves from a vine called Akar Kuning (Fibraurea tinctoria) and chewed on them, researchers said.

Rakus then repeatedly applied the resulting juice onto his facial wound for several minutes, before fully covering the wound with a poultice formed by the chewed leaves, researchers said.

This is the first documented case of a primate applying a known naturally occurring medicinal substance to a wound, researchers said.

It indicates that the medical wound treatment people receive at home and in urgent care clinics might have arisen in a common ancestor shared by humans and orangutans, the research team says.

"The treatment of human wounds was most likely first mentioned in a medical manuscript that dates back to 2200 BC, which included cleaning, plastering, and bandaging of wounds with certain wound care substances," researcher Caroline Schuppli, an evolutionary biologist with the Max Planck Institute of Animal Behavior in Germany, said in a news release.

https://www.healthday.com/health-news/alternative-medicine/an-orangutan-healed-himself-with-medicinal-plant


A Sumatran orangutan in Indonesia has self-medicated using a paste made from plants to heal a large wound on his cheek, say scientists.

It is the first time a creature in the wild has been recorded treating an injury with a medicinal plant.

After researchers saw Rakus applying the plant poultice to his face, the wound closed up and healed in a month.

Scientists say the behaviour could come from a common ancestor shared by humans and great apes.

"They are our closest relatives and this again points towards the similarities we share with them. We are more similar than we are different," said biologist Dr Isabella Laumer at the Max Planck institute in Germany and lead author of the research.

A research team in the Gunung Leuser National Park, Indonesia spotted Rakus with a large wound on his cheek in June 2022.

They believe he was injured fighting with rival male orangutans because he made loud cries called "long calls" in the days before they saw the wound.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-68942123