Oh My, if this goes into effect, well, I just don't know anymore.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-owners-set-to-vote-on-wild-new-kickoff-rule-here-s-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-proposal/ar-BB1kuAme?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=27311246f3e04b7f96ac1ab6e8894210&ei=55
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This is basically the kickoff rule that was used in one of the spring leagues last year. I thought it was a pretty good way to do the kickoff. Far more kicks will be returned instead of the current fair catch or into the end zone take it out to the 25. And it eliminates the violent collisions that occur when players get to run for 30 or 40 yards before blocking someone. I would prefer this new rule as opposed to eliminating the kickoff altogether in the name of safety.
Bill
https://x.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/1772613697682162019?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
NEW NFL KICKOFF PROPOSAL.
*Kicking Team: The 10 players cannot move until the ball hits the ground or player in the landing zone or the end zone.
*Receiving Team: All players in the setup zone cannot move until the kick has hit the ground or a player in the landing zone or the end zone.
*Any kick that hits in the Landing Zone (goal line to 20 yard line) must be returned.
*Any kick hits before the landing zone: Touchback to the 40 (as if it went out of bounds).
*Kick hits the Landing Zone, rolls into end zone and is downed: Touchback to the 20.
*Kick lands in end zone or goes out the back: Touchback to the 35.
*Onside Kick: 4th quarter begins, the team trailing has the opportunity to declare an onside kick to the officials. Current onside kickoff rules would apply.
*No fair catch or signal is allowed.
This proposal is just for one year only.
SUMMARY BELOW:
https://x.com/mysportsupdate/status/1770496999437095196?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
https://x.com/tompelissero/status/1772612311179579506?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
It actually promotes kickoff returns. Kickoff returns are fun. I'm certainly interested in giving the rule a shot this year instead of the new pro forma of every kick go out the back of the endzone.
From Schefter How it will look
https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1772615947922149879?s=61&t=meiiQwOnGSoMsm66TJh5kQ
My brain hurt when I read the new rule with all it's nuances. The folks who thought of this must have been on shrooms when doing so.
This new rule is so much better. Now we actually see returns instead of 75% touchbacks.
Quote from: files58 on March 26, 2024, 11:04:56 AMMy brain hurt when I read the new rule with all it's nuances. The folks who thought of this must have been on shrooms when doing so.
This one was created by Special teams coaches in the NFL.
The one thing that has me sort of curious about how it will turn out is the accuracy needed for the kickers. I guess if they can get between the uprights from 50 yards they should be able to hit the landing zone off the tee. But what about on a windy day in December? How many kickoffs will be short? or long?
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 26, 2024, 09:49:52 AMNEW NFL KICKOFF PROPOSAL.
*Kicking Team: The 10 players cannot move until the ball hits the ground or player in the landing zone or the end zone.
*Receiving Team: All players in the setup zone cannot move until the kick has hit the ground or a player in the landing zone or the end zone.
*Any kick that hits in the Landing Zone (goal line to 20 yard line) must be returned.
*Any kick hits before the landing zone: Touchback to the 40 (as if it went out of bounds).
*Kick hits the Landing Zone, rolls into end zone and is downed: Touchback to the 20.
*Kick lands in end zone or goes out the back: Touchback to the 35.
*Onside Kick: 4th quarter begins, the team trailing has the opportunity to declare an onside kick to the officials. Current onside kickoff rules would apply.
*No fair catch or signal is allowed.
This proposal is just for one year only.
SUMMARY BELOW:
https://x.com/mysportsupdate/status/1770496999437095196?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
This feels like something that would be implemented in an elementary school PE class just to make sure everyone has to run on the play.
Quote from: coggs on March 26, 2024, 11:41:55 AMThis feels like something that would be implemented in an elementary school PE class just to make sure everyone has to run on the play.
I believe this is essential what the USFL does
I feel like having no momentum can negatively effect the kicking team .... You either hit a wall by being stonewalled or you back-tread and wait for the returner to come to you essentially giving up yardage
This is a good idea and I'm glad the NFL is adopting it. Currently a wide majority of kicks end up as touchbacks which are boring and just waste everybody's time. Now we will see a lot more returns which means a lot more return TDs. We will see what kind of effect that has on concussions if you don't have such a huge head start prior to contact. In theory it should help in that area too.
Two impacts of this rule change:
The value of kickoff returners greatly increased
The value of kickers slightly increased with the kickoff ability now being a thing
Accuracy for the kickers will be very important.
What about kickers than can launched almost in the stands?
This rule change will be a major victory for the receiving team in terms of starting position, but will likely cut down on long returns.
First of all, a kicker that puts it into the end zone will almost certainly be downed no matter what. Even if it is an inch in the end zone, as it goes to the 35. With the kicking team starting at the 40, why would you ever return a kick.
Secondly, a return man will almost certainly get to the 25 or so before even having a tackle attempted on him. He will be quicker than most of the kicking team, so if a kicker is reasonably accurate and gets it to the 5, the midpoint would be around the 22 yard line, but that is assuming the kicking players are just as fast (only a few will be) and that there are no blockers, both of which aren't true.
Third, most guys can cover a kick and go 40 yards in an average of what, say 4.5 or so seconds? So under the old rules, you would be around the opponent 25 before the ball is caught (assuming 4-5 seconds of hang time for the kick), and have a full head of steam. Now they will be at the 40 and stationary. So again, big advantage for the receiving team.
This all said, because players aren't scattered all over the field under the old rules, it seems to me that long returns will be harder to make, but starting position will be better.
I also want to see how squib kicks are handled. No real way to do that and slow down a returner, or to kick it to a slower guy and prevent a return, under the new rules.
Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on March 26, 2024, 10:17:22 AMIt actually promotes kickoff returns. Kickoff returns are fun. I'm certainly interested in giving the rule a shot this year instead of the new pro forma of every kick go out the back of the endzone.
This was my reaction too.
I don't know if this new format will work well, but the current setup is terrible. Kickoffs are basically meaningless now. I'd love to see returns come back.
One of the few changes to the game in the last 25 years I am actually excited for. As soon as I saw the XFL's kickoff rules in 2020 I said the NFL needed to adopt them too.
I am with the group that is excited to see how this turns out. Last year there was 4 kickoff returns for TDs for the entire year. I think it's likely we will at least double that this year. With all the kicking team players except the kicker all the way up field, one missed tackle could easily be a TD. Plus, with a new format there will be new strategies that the receiving teams will use that the kicking team will not be prepared to counter because they have never seen it.
Quote from: spiderblue43 on March 26, 2024, 08:09:56 PMWhat about kickers than can launched almost in the stands?
I agree. But the rule for kickoffs vs. free kicks comes in play. If you have a bionic leg, kick the ball without the tee and put it through the goalposts and you'll earn three points. Figure there will be some offsides early on while players adapt, the ball starts moving up, a free kick is not impossible.
The question becomes, then, can you start a Fame with a free kick?
Talk about a kicker convolution a play he's already involved in!
Peace!