Wow what a loaded week!
No. 6 Ohio State at No. 9 Notre Dame
No. 15 Ole Miss at No. 13 Alabama Tense CBS afternoon game
No. 22 UCLA at No. 11 Utah
No. 19 Colorado at No. 10 Oregon
No. 14 Oregon State at No. 21 Washington State
No. 24 Iowa at No. 7 Penn State
Absolutely loaded week... just sick.
I'm an ND fan so that's the main event for me, but I'm also pumped for a bunch of these other games. We'll learn a lot about the balance of power in the top 10-15 teams this week.
What do you think of the Colorado/Oregon game with respect to the spread (21)? I know Oregon is good and it's obviously a tough place to play, but I wasn't expecting the spread to be a full three touchdowns. Maybe this is the week Coach Prime and the Buffs come crashing down to earth, but if I were an active bettor I'm not sure I'd want to be laying 21 points against them.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on September 20, 2023, 07:27:28 AMAbsolutely loaded week... just sick.
I'm an ND fan so that's the main event for me, but I'm also pumped for a bunch of these other games. We'll learn a lot about the balance of power in the top 10-15 teams this week.
What do you think of the Colorado/Oregon game with respect to the spread (21)? I know Oregon is good and it's obviously a tough place to play, but I wasn't expecting the spread to be a full three touchdowns. Maybe this is the week Coach Prime and the Buffs come crashing down to earth, but if I were an active bettor I'm not sure I'd want to be laying 21 points against them.
Yeah I think Oregon exposes Colorados D and Oline they just don't have the player's yet and Colorado hasn't been able to run it. Nix for Colorado tends to come up short in big games.
As an Ole Miss fan we've got Alabama this week and LSU next week, we win those two games we virtually win the west. We also have T a&m, miss st, Arkansas, Georgia, and Auburn on the schedule which is wild but beating Alabama and Lsu basically locks in us as the team in the SEC West I believe.
Hopefully Oregon wins by 50
Quote from: Jclayton92 on September 20, 2023, 12:41:33 PMYeah I think Oregon exposes Colorados D and Oline they just don't have the player's yet and Colorado hasn't been able to run it. Nix for Colorado tends to come up short in big games.
As an Ole Miss fan we've got Alabama this week and LSU next week, we win those two games we virtually win the west. We also have T a&m, miss st, Arkansas, Georgia, and Auburn on the schedule which is wild but beating Alabama and Lsu basically locks in us as the team in the SEC West I believe.
Bama clearly looks suspect this year (relative to the norm). As an ND fan I have to say I was shocked when they took Tommy Rees to be the OC. He is as vanilla as Jason Garrett and doesn't know how to in-game adjust. Tyler Buchner is also suspect (zero accuracy). That said they have a tough D and I know Ole Miss has been banged up.
I suspect Oregon will blow CO out. This team is a fun little story but they're not going 12-0. Especially now that Hunter is out.
Go Irish. Hartman ftw
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on September 20, 2023, 12:51:40 PMBama clearly looks suspect this year (relative to the norm). As an ND fan I have to say I was shocked when they took Tommy Rees to be the OC. He is as vanilla as Jason Garrett and doesn't know how to in-game adjust. Tyler Buchner is also suspect (zero accuracy). That said they have a tough D and I know Ole Miss has been banged up.
I suspect Oregon will blow CO out. This team is a fun little story but they're not going 12-0. Especially now that Hunter is out.
We've been holding our top 2 Wrs Zakhari Franklin and Tre Harris back until this week they are going to play and are full go in practice. So is our #1 TE Kaden Priescorn, we will have him and Micheal Trigg at TE. So for the first time this season we'll have our top 5 Wrs and top 2 TEs and all our Rbs. I am pumped.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on September 20, 2023, 12:51:40 PMBama clearly looks suspect this year (relative to the norm). As an ND fan I have to say I was shocked when they took Tommy Rees to be the OC. He is as vanilla as Jason Garrett and doesn't know how to in-game adjust. Tyler Buchner is also suspect (zero accuracy). That said they have a tough D and I know Ole Miss has been banged up.
I suspect Oregon will blow CO out. This team is a fun little story but they're not going 12-0. Especially now that Hunter is out.
Oh yeah Rees is not Kiffin, Daboll, or Sark in that long list of great Alabama OCs. I don't think he knows how to run a proper offense.
I see a lot of questions among many of the so-called top teams or previous top teams. Bama is a hot mess with 3 QBs not gettingit dine and an OC failing.
I am not a believer yet in Sark or Texas. Too many entitled players from places like Southlake Carrol. Ewers will not meet the bell at the end of the season.
UGA and OSU have huge uncertainty at QB. It won't matter how good the rest of their team is. OSU hired a DC in Him Knowles who plays a style of D that can beat the Big 10 but is not a design to beat Michigan. Think it will hurt them. Michigan has yet to get its running game going like last year and they've already made some changes in OL which show the problem they are having.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on September 20, 2023, 02:04:50 PMOh yeah Rees is not Kiffin, Daboll, or Sark in that long list of great Alabama OCs. I don't think he knows how to run a proper offense.
He's the Jason Garrett of college... 100%
Quote from: Philosophers on September 20, 2023, 12:43:58 PMWhy?
Why not?
Colorado has become a sideshow. Getting them grounded means a little more coverage and normalcy for the other teams who are actually really good.
Quote from: JT39 on September 20, 2023, 03:45:48 PMWhy not?
Colorado has become a sideshow. Getting them grounded means a little more coverage and normalcy for the other teams who are actually really good.
I hear you and I know people who are now rooting against Colorado. For me personally, I'm enjoying it. Sure Deion is cocky and self-aggrandizing and always has been, but I feel like it's an entertaining story that is adding some good juice to the college season. A lot of the clips of his locker room speeches etc have been fun to watch.
Without this Hunter kid they're not going to have much of a chance this weekend though. He's a Heisman caliber talent. I'm not saying they'd win with him, but I think they might be a bit more competitive. Oregon is a big time program though and Eugene is a very tough venue.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on September 20, 2023, 03:53:21 PMI hear you and I know people who are now rooting against Colorado. For me personally, I'm enjoying it. Sure Deion is cocky and self-aggrandizing and always has been, but I feel like it's an entertaining story that is adding some good juice to the college season. A lot of the clips of his locker room speeches etc have been fun to watch.
Without this Hunter kid they're not going to have much of a chance this weekend though. He's a Heisman caliber talent. I'm not saying they'd win with him, but I think they might be a bit more competitive. Oregon is a big time program though and Eugene is a very tough venue.
Don't get me wrong - Colorado become relevant is good for football. No denial of that.
Losing Hunter is huge too. But the he hype, trash talking, coverage - it's way too overwhelming and it just feeds into Deion though. He eats up and makes it worse.
I will say Norvell was worse than Deion last week. You know what was said behind closed doors. The amount of cheap shots and dirty play was really hard to watch.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on September 20, 2023, 03:53:21 PMI hear you and I know people who are now rooting against Colorado. For me personally, I'm enjoying it. Sure Deion is cocky and self-aggrandizing and always has been, but I feel like it's an entertaining story that is adding some good juice to the college season. A lot of the clips of his locker room speeches etc have been fun to watch.
Without this Hunter kid they're not going to have much of a chance this weekend though. He's a Heisman caliber talent. I'm not saying they'd win with him, but I think they might be a bit more competitive. Oregon is a big time program though and Eugene is a very tough venue.
They're not going anywhere because you need depth to win and they dont have it yet. I think it's a great story for football. Colorado would never be relevant doing it the usual way. It needed a disruption such as what Deion did. Now he has to see it through however if team outperforms, I can see a team with a bigger wallet come calling that is in the doldrums or massively underperforming.
Quote from: Philosophers on September 20, 2023, 11:52:22 PMThey're not going anywhere because you need depth to win and they dont have it yet. I think it's a great story for football. Colorado would never be relevant doing it the usual way. It needed a disruption such as what Deion did. Now he has to see it through however if team outperforms, I can see a team with a bigger wallet come calling that is in the doldrums or massively underperforming.
This team has been awful right up through last year and now they're relevant. I totally agree that they're "going nowhere" with respect to the playoffs and probably even just the New Years 6 bowls (though nobody cares about these anymore), but they've suddenly become the biggest story in college football right now if not American sports. I don't really have a rooting bias but I'm enjoying it as a story. I know some don't like Deion's style, and I get the reasons why, but I just find the whole thing entertaining personally, and I think it's pretty impressive to do what he did in just a year, even given you now have the transfer portal. If it were this easy other new coaches would be going to irrelevant schools and doing the same thing too.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on September 21, 2023, 06:49:26 AMThis team has been awful right up through last year and now they're relevant. I totally agree that they're "going nowhere" with respect to the playoffs and probably even just the New Years 6 bowls (though nobody cares about these anymore), but they've suddenly become the biggest story in college football right now if not American sports. I don't really have a rooting bias but I'm enjoying it as a story. I know some don't like Deion's style, and I get the reasons why, but I just find the whole thing entertaining personally, and I think it's pretty impressive to do what he did in just a year, even given you now have the transfer portal. If it were this easy other new coaches would be going to irrelevant schools and doing the same thing too.
I agree completely with what you wrote.
I have never loved his me first attitude and showy personality but he got players to come and they are believing in him and they are playing well. As a story, it's a great one.
It will be interesting to see what happens when real adversity hits.
The difference between his attitude vs Tom Bradys shows up clearly in how they approach Sanders son buying a Rolls Riyce. Sanders seems indifferent. Brady says he should be more focused on spending time looking at film.
Why is RGIII wearing his Grandma's glasses :P
Apologies - I totally forgot we already had a week 4 college thread. My bad. Just delete or forget about the one I started.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on September 23, 2023, 12:39:18 PMApologies - I totally forgot we already had a week 4 college thread. My bad. Just delete or forget about the one I started.
Sure they can merge because I already replied in yours.
I'm going to disagree with a few of the posters here. What's happening with Colorado here really should not be part of college sports. I don't like college football much because there's so much hypocrisy here. The NFL is totally money hungry but for the most part, they're pretty open about that. The NCAA is also totally money hungry but for the most part, they're supposed to be about student athletes. Sanders comes in to Colorado and basically gets rid of the whole team bringing in a whole new team. There's something wrong with that from a college point of view. There's no doubt in my mind that if Sanders stays there, he'll be bringing in top notch talent going forward. In my opinion, more than likely, he'll leave and go to!a bigger program and do something similar.
They don't look really relevant today. TCU is an average team and their last two openers stink.
My heart Is on my sleeve on this ole miss game.
Let's goooooo pick in the endzone!
Quote from: nb587 on September 23, 2023, 03:28:23 PMI'm going to disagree with a few of the posters here. What's happening with Colorado here really should not be part of college sports. I don't like college football much because there's so much hypocrisy here. The NFL is totally money hungry but for the most part, they're pretty open about that. The NCAA is also totally money hungry but for the most part, they're supposed to be about student athletes. Sanders comes in to Colorado and basically gets rid of the whole team bringing in a whole new team. There's something wrong with that from a college point of view. There's no doubt in my mind that if Sanders stays there, he'll be bringing in top notch talent going forward. In my opinion, more than likely, he'll leave and go to!a bigger program and do something similar.
I definitely don't think he's staying in Colorado that long. I don't think there are many people who think that. His next job will be at a top program for sure. Probably in the next 2-3 years.
Sanders looking like Jones out there playing the 49ers, with no blocking, no WRs getting opened and playing a much more talented team!
Tough loss for ND to get beat at the last second like that. I thought the two teams were evenly matched though, and I saw OSU ranked number one by some of the computers, so this isn't some catastrophic loss. If they bounce back and win in Duke next weekend (Duke is absolutely legit this year) they'll still be in the conversation. OSU obviously deserves credit for going in to a hostile environment in a huge night game and coming away with the W. Treyvon Henderson is no doubt a beast. Harrison Jr was more quiet - obviously his injury didn't help.
Nice job by the Cuse to take care of a business against Army. Their next three weeks are massive:
Clemson
at UNC
at FSU
If they can find a way to somehow win two of those (most likely the first two), that would be highly impressive.