What is the problem with WAITING next year to draft a QB ?

[Gmo11]

Yes, and it's not close.

They also have a better QB throwing them the ball though.  If you swapped teams I imagine Hyatt/Robinson put up similar or better numbers.  If you simply swapped QBs on each team...same deal in my opinion.  Those guys in Houston are good, but these guys in NY are also good whenever they are given a chance to show it.  Which this season was extremely rare.

[Stringer Bell]

They also have a better QB throwing them the ball though.  If you swapped teams I imagine Hyatt/Robinson put up similar or better numbers.  If you simply swapped QBs on each team...same deal in my opinion.  Those guys in Houston are good, but these guys in NY are also good whenever they are given a chance to show it.  Which this season was extremely rare.

Agree to disagree. Nico Collins missed 2 games and still put up 1,300 yards and 8 TDs this year. Robinson and Hyatt combined for less than 900 yards and 1 TD. They're not even remotely on Collins' level. Hell, they're not even as good as Dell, the rookie.

And you can't just pin their performance on subpar QB play. Garrett Wilson put up 1,000 yards with some of the worst QB play I've ever seen. DJ Moore had almost 1,400 yards and 8 TDs with a bottom-third QB.

Reality is that Robinson is a decent gadget player and could develop into solid slot WR, but he's not one yet. And Hyatt has a LONG way to go on basically every aspect of being an NFL WR, let alone a highly productive one.

[brownelvis54]

2025 class right now looks really weak compared to this years class. There isnt really a great Sophomore. And the ones who returned probably would have ranged from 7-12 in this years class.

Well, just because there looks to be a lot of good QBs in this years draft doesn't always mean success. History proves this.


Look at the 1999 draft: 5 QBs were taken in the fist round and that class looked DEEP

#1 Tim Couch

# 2 Donovan McNabb

# 3 Akili Smith

#11  Daunte Culpepper

#12 Cade McNown


We know how that played out.

Going forward. History has a lot of QBs drafted in the first round that have not panned out in the NFL. Here are just a few:


JaMarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, Matt Leinart, Robert Griffin III, Jake Locker, Johnny Manziel, Heath Shuler, Josh Rosen, Todd Marinovich, Dave Brown, Joey Harrington, Vince Young, Brady Quinn, Tim Tebow, EJ Manuel, Blake Bortles, Marcus Mariota, Josh Freeman, Mark Sanchez, Byron Leftwich, Rick Mirer, David Klingler, Andre Ware, Kelly Stouffer, Todd Blackledge, and Mitchell Trubisky and that is a sample.



Again we are not a QB away from being any good.

[Fletch]

Well, just because there looks to be a lot of good QBs in this years draft doesn't always mean success. History proves this.


Look at the 1999 draft: 5 QBs were taken in the fist round and that class looked DEEP

#1 Tim Couch

# 2 Donovan McNabb

# 3 Akili Smith

#11  Daunte Culpepper

#12 Cade McNown


We know how that played out.

Going forward. History has a lot of QBs drafted in the first round that have not panned out in the NFL. Here are just a few:


JaMarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, Matt Leinart, Robert Griffin III, Jake Locker, Johnny Manziel, Heath Shuler, Josh Rosen, Todd Marinovich, Dave Brown, Joey Harrington, Vince Young, Brady Quinn, Tim Tebow, EJ Manuel, Blake Bortles, Marcus Mariota, Josh Freeman, Mark Sanchez, Byron Leftwich, Rick Mirer, David Klingler, Andre Ware, Kelly Stouffer, Todd Blackledge, and Mitchell Trubisky and that is a sample.



Again we are not a QB away from being any good.

Don't forget to add Daniel Jones to that list.

[T200]

Well, just because there looks to be a lot of good QBs in this years draft doesn't always mean success. History proves this.


Look at the 1999 draft: 5 QBs were taken in the fist round and that class looked DEEP

#1 Tim Couch

# 2 Donovan McNabb

# 3 Akili Smith

#11  Daunte Culpepper

#12 Cade McNown


We know how that played out.

Going forward. History has a lot of QBs drafted in the first round that have not panned out in the NFL. Here are just a few:


JaMarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, Matt Leinart, Robert Griffin III, Jake Locker, Johnny Manziel, Heath Shuler, Josh Rosen, Todd Marinovich, Dave Brown, Joey Harrington, Vince Young, Brady Quinn, Tim Tebow, EJ Manuel, Blake Bortles, Marcus Mariota, Josh Freeman, Mark Sanchez, Byron Leftwich, Rick Mirer, David Klingler, Andre Ware, Kelly Stouffer, Todd Blackledge, and Mitchell Trubisky and that is a sample.



Again we are not a QB away from being any good.

All this proves is that getting a franchise/elite QB in the draft involves a tremendous amount of good fortune. There's absolutely no way to ensure you're picking the right guy. There are failures and successes littered up and down the draft board. You can research and interview and test and evaluate until the final minute. Your chances would be just as good as if you throw a dart at the board.

My point is that if you have conviction and confidence in a guy. Pick him. It's not life or death. Stop worrying about how other players turned out. There is absolutely ZERO correlation. None.

Damn. I need some big words. PAINTER!!!!!!!! 

[RelaxTension]

And Hyatt has a LONG way to go on basically every aspect of being an NFL WR, let alone a highly productive one.

There should be no surprise that Hyatt needs some time to develop.
Will these coaches and player be able to accomplish this has some hope due to his catching ability and speed.

[Gmo11]

There should be no surprise that Hyatt needs some time to develop.
Will these coaches and player be able to accomplish this has some hope due to his catching ability and speed.

Get him a QB and watch what happens.  Not even a special QB.  Just something hovering around respectable.