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Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 02:54:08 PMJones dropped back 28 times in that game.  Of those 28 dropbacks, he was sacked 7 times, hit 6 times, and hurried 24 times.   Do you think that it's possible (even if remotely) that might have impacted DJ's game?  Plus it was pouring rain

And he had fast feet. Eyes wide open and scared look, locked on every receiver and made horrible decisions. You can attempt to defend it that's fine by me, but he looked overmatched and nervous.

Quote from: Trench on Today at 01:03:50 PMThe biggest problem in that Dallas Game was Jones played scared and had a deer in headlights look. One thing he must improve upon is success on national tv games. He melts in those spots

Quote from: Trench on Today at 02:40:13 PMJones was horrible that game let's not forget that. He melted

Jones dropped back 28 times in that game.  Of those 28 dropbacks, he was sacked 7 times, hit 6 times, and hurried 24 times.   Do you think that it's possible (even if remotely) that might have impacted DJ's game?  Plus it was pouring rain

Jones was horrible that game let's not forget that. He melted

I'm no football savant by any means, but I think big players hate facing short guys as they don't line up well. Probably the best DT in the last decade was said to be "too short" to succeed at the next level...his name? Aaron Donald (6'05", 280 lbs)

Not that this guy is another Aaron Donald, but one should concentrate more on the size of the heart, than the size of the body. Last year, analysts said that LB Ivan Pace Jr. was the "best linebacker" in the draft, but he was "too short" and didn't fit the ideal NFL size. Pace didn't even get drafted. The Vikings picked him up as an UDFA, and he went on to win 1st Team NFL Rookie and other awards throughout and after the season https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ivan-pace-jr-an-emerging-superstar/ar-AA1kUCcp

History is littered with examples, and there is an enormous amount of NFL duds and washouts who possessed the "ideal NFL body for a position"

Flott has had 3 years to add muscle and weight. Yet, he is still being judged by his 19-year-old college body. That's the one thing that never gets fixed on the internet...they stick with the last documented weight, speed, strength, etc., which usually comes from the combine or the player's pro-day. Virtually none of the guys at 25/26 could duplicate the numbers they put up in a combine (except strength). Three years in the NFL changes a player in every way imaginable. And speed doesn't get better; however, ability to anticipate and read what is unfolding during a play gets much better

Flott has good instincts and has a football mind. Give him a chance to prove himself before relying on college data that no longer applies. Pretty much dittos with every player in the NFL. Hence the reason so many players who get drafted fail in the NFL...they didn't prepare themselves physically, mentally, and possess the personal drive for taking the next step in their athletic career...and it's a damn big step

The Giants seemed to have gone the longest without one

Quote from: Trench on Today at 12:55:25 PMI will clarify as u are correct - Jones AND the other QBs. Certainly don't wanna upset the jones or bust club

Being factually correct and not unfairly bashing the Giants' starting quarterback would be enough incentive, but okay. 

Quote from: Jclayton92 on Today at 01:16:26 PM"So, perhaps unfairly, he lands here, capped, in a way, by the lingering uncertainty around what Daniel Jones will bring to the table."

Where in that is there hate? You automatically assume he is speaking to Jones play when he could simply be speaking about his health. So without knowing the context it is beyond ridiculous to assume the guy is slamming Jones.

The author brings up major players for every team that the player is going to. They bring up A Rodgers on the Hassan Reddick trade, all the Titans offensive weapons when discussing the Sneed trade, and so on. Jones was not singled out or treated any different than anyone else in the article.

Lingering uncertainty to what Jones brings to the table is more than likely referring to his health.

I saw both you and @DaveBrown74 bring up injuries.  That seems to be an invention to let the author off the hook, though, as the author never suggested he had injury concerns.  He said "limitations," which implies talent, rather than "uncertainty," which one might claim is an injury issue (even if the author never mentioned injury concerns