Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 11:05:34 AMThomas was injured very early in the game and Waller had been injured prior to the game and was not playing like he had in camp.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 11:04:16 AMHow did any of those impact the week one game, which is what I was referencing?
Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 11:02:15 AMDo you think key injuries to Thomas (arguably the offense's best player), Waller, and Jones might have impacted what was expected versus what was produced?
Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 10:21:57 AMDid I misread the title? Was this an article about quarterbacks?
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 10:54:29 AMWell said, and I couldn't agree more.
I would even take it a step further and argue that the whole of camp and preseason get overhyped too in terms of their meaningfulness and correlation to real games. Look at all the optimism we had on this board in late August/early Sep, and then look at the historically terrible week one performance. That was not the only time we've seen this disconnect either. Not by a longshot, sadly.
Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 07:51:32 AMThere are legitimate criticisms and concerns about Daniel Jones, and then there is an unhealthy obsession with seeking ways to put the man down. The remarkable part is from everything we have seen of the man, he doesn't deserve the hate. The man is among the hardest working (hardest luck) players in the NFL. Yet there is this obsession with crapping all over him
Quote from: Jclayton92 on Today at 10:47:19 AMRich You titled the thread Jones hate among sports pundits and proceeded to list one guy who was talking about Brian burns. Yes he mentioned the qb in a throwaway line but it wasn't hate.
Especially when you consider that the guy in the article talks about the team that the player is going to. Each trade the guy brings up qbs, wrs, tes, and so on for the team the player is going to so Jones wasn't singled out and wasn't the only qb discussed so you're making it into something it absolutely isn't.
Quote from: Philosophers on Today at 09:58:17 AMJMS has not looked like a good center yet as a 2nd round pick. Even if Neal improves, JMS needs a big jump as well.
Quote from: Philosophers on Today at 10:01:40 AMI am not going to focus on all these training moments. Gets way overhyped.
I'll pay attention to more finished products at the end of August.
Quote from: Trench on Today at 10:17:42 AMThe Giants did not target him consistently whatsoever. That's not on him. That's on Jones or the game plan or both.