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Quote from: Rosehill Jimmy on April 26, 2024, 10:59:49 PMI'm confused. If the needs on D were DT, CB and Safety and we addressed 2 of them why is that a bad thing?  There's still tomorrow when we can hopefully get some offensive contributors

It isn't. I love Nubin pick. Wished they had taken one of the top three running backs and Corum was still on the board. It's probably more of a reaction at knowing our offense is going to painful to watch again.

Quote from: bamagiantfan on April 26, 2024, 10:48:46 PMI agree, they need a RB but another small back would not have been my choice. They have several of those now.

I think you will get your wish for a RB before the draft is over, and there are better players than Corum out there to be had. Whoops! THere goes Lloyd. Still 4-5 backs who I would like to see in Giants colors.

I'd argue that Michigan's national championship had much more to do with Blake Corum than JJ McCarthy, and I don't really think that it's debatable. There are running backs out there but the talent drops off quickly after the top three. IMHO Corum would have been our best back day one and we have plenty of bodies at the position just not a lot of talent. I'm more frustrated than anything else right now. We suck on offense so let's use most of our draft capital on defense.

Quote from: bamagiantfan on April 26, 2024, 10:18:17 PMSpecifics? Who did you want? What position? They got the best WR and in the opinion of many the best player in the draft and followed it up with who many think was the best Safety in the draft. There were a few good CBs left in the early 3rd. They are not going to get one worth a damn tomorrow.

Now if you want an upgrade at RB, TE, or G, you can get one tomorrow. What do you want?

Blake Corum would have made our offense better immediately but hey we just made either Hawkins or Flott irrelevant before we know what they really are.

Quote from: Gmo11 on April 26, 2024, 10:18:13 PMAre Nubin and Phillips ineligible for play after this season?  If they can build a top level defense this season, with young and talented players under contract, then that defense should still be top level in 2025.  This team had a lot of holes on both sides of the ball and they filled a couple today.  I don't think we can ask too much more than that.

Coming into the draft the defense had three holes. DT, CB and safety. On offense we neeed

Quote from: bamagiantfan on April 26, 2024, 10:18:17 PMSpecifics? Who did you want? What position? They got the best WR and in the opinion of many the best player in the draft and followed it up with who many think was the best Safety in the draft. There were a few good CBs left in the early 3rd. They are not going to get one worth a damn tomorrow.

Now if you want an upgrade at RB, TE, or G, you can get one tomorrow. What do you want?

What do I want? I want a F-ing offense that isn't a complete embarrassment for a 10th year in a row. The Giants have three young corners. How about we wait to see how the develop before drafting another one that didn't have a single interception during his time in college. Listen he's Giant now so I hope he's successful but when you have an offensive minded coach you might want to play to his strengths. Frankly I'm just pissed at the prospect of watching our defense put the team in a position to win only to lose because we can put points on the board.

Adoree had 6 career interceptions and 28 passes defended at USC to Phillips 0 interceptions and 6 passes defended. Hope he turns out to be a player but we don't need to overhype every draft pick.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 09:59:08 PMThe Chiefs won the Super Bowl with defense.

The Giants added heavy O-line, RB, TE, QB in free agency

I expect a RB and maybe TE tomorrow

They had a top 10 offense too....

Quote from: Rosehill Jimmy on April 26, 2024, 10:00:19 PM2 of 3 picks but I'm a little surprised rd 3 was a defensive player and especially because it was another DB.

He used our second round draft pick to trade for Burns. So three of the first four went towards building the defense.

Quote from: Gmo11 on April 26, 2024, 09:58:27 PMWhether they draft an OL or a RB or another WR in the 3rd round they are still going to be stuck with Jones which limits how effective that offense can really be.  There are no limits to how good this defense could be though.  They needed a safety and they got the best one in the draft.  They needed a CB so they got one of those.  You hit the nail on the head:  Their best chance to win games next season is going to be to win them 14-10.

Why do posters take a short term view of the draft? This draft isn't about next year, it's about the next 5-7 years. Jones is gone at the end of next year. It would be nice to have a competent offense ready to go for the next guy....

I don't get it. Coming into the draft the defense was clearly better than the offense and we chose to use three of our first four picks to add to the defense. I guess they're just lanning on winning games 14-10. Not knocking adding Burns, Nubin or Phillips. Just doesn't make sense to me.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 08:31:48 PMThere are a few veterans that are still unsigned if needed

Sure but none of them are considered long term fixes. You hope with the second round pick to get a starter that hangs around through his second contract.

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on April 26, 2024, 05:49:14 PMBelichick compared Alt to a young Nate Solder. In his prime Solder was good but never dominant.

On the other hand, I think Nabers has a chance to be another Antonio Brown. If he can keep his head on straight, he's going to be a force.

For me Nabers is the easy choice.

In fairness he was talking about his physical dimensions.

I guess that means that they aren't as concerned at corner as the fans are. He's a really good safety even if he's a rodent.

When I read stories about young athletes passing it's always incredibly sad. I hope for his family's sake that it was of natural causes. Losing someone that young is soul crushing to loved ones. Losing someone that young to drugs or suicide is it's own special type of hell.

Quote from: jgrangers2 on April 26, 2024, 02:17:11 PMSlayton is a mid-level wide receiver. He is not a game changing guy, just a solid supplementary piece. No team is moving from 34 to 47 to get that kind of player. The Toney example is completely different because he was in the second year of his rookie deal and under contract for at least 2.5 more years.

So you'd be fine burning a second round draft pick on a head case, with an injury history and no proven track record simply because he's on a rookie deal but dropping 15 spots to get a solid NFL starter, who's been a good teammate is a bridge too far?

Quote from: londonblue on April 26, 2024, 01:12:04 PMI'd only consider it for DeJean or McKinstry and only if we have clean medical evaluations on them. We have bigger needs at CB/NCB than G IMO.

Maybe but none of us knows how the staff feel about Flott and Hawkins. If they really like the both of them than we don't really have a need do we?