Daboll complained about his WRs being too slow, so...

[MightyGiants]

https://x.com/DanSchneierNFL/status/1787864230340788291

[T200]

First, it's not, "all of *the* sudden..." It's "all of *A* sudden."

Second, when did Daboll "complain about his WRs being too slow"?

Third, the only speedy addition on that list was Nabers.

Fourth, all that speed just means they get out of Jones's comfortable 10-yard throwing window faster.     

[MightyGiants]

First, it's not, "all of *the* sudden..." It's "all of *A* sudden."

Second, when did Daboll "complain about his WRs being too slow"?

Third, the only speedy addition on that list was Nabers.

Fourth, all that speed just means they get out of Jones's comfortable 10-yard throwing window faster.     

I couldn't find the direct quote from Daboll, but I did find this comment from Schoen

"I would say both sides of the ball, just team speed in general. Offense), defense and special teams," he said. "I think we did that with some of the free agents we signed: Parris Campbell can roll, Jeff (Smith) can roll, (Bobby) Okereke runs well. We've upgraded the speed in general; (Darren) Waller. So yeah, that's definitely something watching our team last year, we just felt we needed to get faster in all three phases."

[President Rick]

would you prefer speed with dropsies of a sure-handed 4.5 - 4.6 runner?  As long as they catch the catchable balls and break-up possible INT's, I'm happy.  Seeing the return of Homer Jones however would make my day!!!!

[UncannyGfan]

Playing speed and running speed are two independent categories.

[President Rick]

well said.   and remember Carl Lewis....as they say about baseball pitchers.....all that speed and no control, i.e. for football....HANDS.

[Rosehill Jimmy]

well said.   and remember Carl Lewis....as they say about baseball pitchers.....all that speed and no control, i.e. for football....HANDS.

I remember hearing an interview with either the radio voice or a beat writer with the Bills immediately after the hires.  He said look for the Giants to increase the speed among wideouts as it was a trait Daboll values

[nb587]

I remember hearing an interview with either the radio voice or a beat writer with the Bills immediately after the hires.  He said look for the Giants to increase the speed among wideouts as it was a trait Daboll values

Its team wide need for speed, not just WRs

[Jclayton92]

would you prefer speed with dropsies of a sure-handed 4.5 - 4.6 runner?  As long as they catch the catchable balls and break-up possible INT's, I'm happy.  Seeing the return of Homer Jones however would make my day!!!!

Most of the elite Wrs of the past 2 decades ran a 4.5.

[Brooklyn Dave]

Jerry Rice was not a speed merchant.

[nb587]

I dont know the answer to this- just asking.  If you looked at the top 10 WRs today, or top 5, how many would you think are fast?

[DaveBrown74]

I dont know the answer to this- just asking.  If you looked at the top 10 WRs today, or top 5, how many would you think are fast?

It is somewhat subjective who the five best receivers are, but I'll take a crack at it.

For "fast" I will use less than 4.45 on the 40. I think that's a fair cutoff for this position.


Is each of the below players fast?

Tyreek Hill (4.29): Yes
Cee Dee Lamb (4.5): No
Amon-Ra St. Brown (4.61): No
Ja'Marr Chase (4.38): Yes
AJ Brown (4.49): No

2 yes, 3 no.

[Philosophers]

Nothing's changed except Nabers so WTF?

[MightyGiants]

It is somewhat subjective who the five best receivers are, but I'll take a crack at it.

For "fast" I will use less than 4.45 on the 40. I think that's a fair cutoff for this position.


Is each of the below players fast?

Tyreek Hill (4.29): Yes
Cee Dee Lamb (4.5): No
Amon-Ra St. Brown (4.61): No
Ja'Marr Chase (4.38): Yes
AJ Brown (4.49): No

2 yes, 3 no.

Justin Jefferson 4.43
 Davante Adams 4.56
 Stefon Diggs 4.46
 Cooper Kupp 4.62
 Deebo Samuel 4.48