Big Blue Huddle

Much of the early criticism of Dave Gettleman was that he basically was a front man hired to do the bidding of the Maras.

For example:

"We aren't replacing Eli Manning. Build a team around him. Draft Saquon Barkley."

"We aren't replacing Daniel Jones. Build a team around him."

"We aren't trading Saquon Barkley. Pay the man."

Many suggested that if such ultimatums were issued at the time of Gettleman's hiring, he should have simply refused the job.

I see a lot folks STILL insist that directives come from John or Chris Mara concerning Daniel Jones' future.

If Gettleman really should have refused the position based on Mara meddling, should the same criticism not apply to Joe Schoen? Do we really believe that Jones is still here because he is the pet of team ownership? Is Joe Schoen really bending to the will of John & Chris Mara? Is Mara Meddling really as big a thing as it's made out to be?

Things happen. I never thought they would trade up for Maye or that the Pats would trade that pick. McCarthy I'm not sure. Time will tell if it was a mistake or not. My issue is that getting a young, new QB is inevitable. The longer they wait to find a franchise QB that can possibly get them deep into the playoffs and/or Super Bowl, the longer we fans have to watch mediocrity. So now that is put off at least another couple of seasons even if they get a rookie QB next year.

Quote from: sxdxca38 on May 02, 2024, 07:46:00 PMI agree with that, and if Neal begins to struggle, I think you can switch Eluemunor and Neals positions on the line.

This does seem to be the most likely scenario.

No. At this point, the Giants are hoping that they can salvage Neal, or Eleumenor gives them capable RT play. I am hesitant to keep throwing high picks at the OL when this team is still talent-deficient in numerous other areas. While Wan'Dale and Hyatt are nice players, at this point they can't be counted on to be anything more than complementary. I see Nabers as a difference maker. Maybe not this season, but in 2025 and beyond.

Saquon was minding his business at a basketball game and they showed him on the screen and TV. Fans go after him on X, but the title of the thread is "Why do former NYG stars struggle to make clean breaks?"   

Heck no and this is coming from someone that thinks ALt will be great.

At some point you gotta coach up what you have. Brillo pad will wipe the stink of Bobby Johnsons coaching off of our poor lineman    One of Neal or Eluemenor play RT the other RG. Runyon is a plus pass blocking LG, Thomas is Thomas, JMS was supposedly the best OC in last year's draft and smart. I'm fine with what we got NOW that we have what seems to be a top notch OL coach in place.

Quote from: TONKA56 on May 02, 2024, 09:27:24 PMWhile I appreciate all of this data, it completely misses my point.

The most important question: "Why?"

He's never been a deep ball thrower ever. People say stuff like accurate deep ball etc because he only throws deep if he Is wide open so sure he'll be accurate but it's a misrepresentation. Is some on the oline, absolutely but for the most part it is likely a mentaly thing.

Schoen must have developed temporary "Brainlock" when he picked this guy off the discount rack

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 07:59:39 AMBy all reports, the Giants made a strong effort to trade up to draft Maye but that simply wasn't possible because the Pats wanted him as their quarterback.

So here is my question.

Are you upset because:

A) the Giants didn't ignore their board and drafted one of the lesser-graded QBs on their board (in other words, they should have "reached" for a QB)

B) You disagree with the Giants' grades they had on the remaining 3 QBs, at least one of them had a grade that justified drafting them 6th overall (passing on a blue chip prospect like Nabers)

C) Neither A nor B, you are just unhappy with the circumstances (no "mistakes" made) that had the Giants come out of the draft without a new QB

Mighty, it's a great question.

Kinda C for me.

I suspect the Giants had a franchise grade on 2 or 3 of the top 3 guys. Maye was the 'gettable' one. I saw greatness and 'arm arrogance' when watching his film. He is the only guy that was 'gettable' that could have been a clear upgrade over the upside of Jones. But the price was high. Short of that, our next best scenario would be Jones reaches his upside because we got the WR1 instead and also potentially fixed the OL with a coach and a couple veteran OL. So while disappointed, recognize it might be a blessing in disguise IF Jones becomes the guy seen in flashes more consistently with the better support around him.

Quote from: babywhales on Today at 08:43:09 AMThe New York Giants are a corner stone organization in the NFL.  The TV revenue sharing agreed to in the early 60's by Wellington for the benefit and growth of the NFL is why the NFL is where it is today.

It was said The Duke was the heart and soul of the NFL and The New York Football Giants are not too far behind him.

Players might not like the taxes in New York State but players love being here and hate leaving.

You can go even further back, in terms of how important the Giants were.   Because they were in NYC, they had more revenue than other teams.  They could get all the new talent they wanted.   Yet, for the good of the league, they agreed to a draft that helped to create parody at the expense of their advantage.