Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 01, 2024, 10:55:06 AMHe could have a high qb rating, and qbr but still end up with 3000 yards, 12 tds and 5 ints and that would be successful to you?
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 01, 2024, 10:46:54 AMI am not a big fan of just statistical measures to say what is a successful season (as that removes context), but I will offer up what I would consider a successful season by Jones:He could have a high qb rating, and qbr but still end up with 3000 yards, 12 tds and 5 ints and that would be successful to you?
1) No more than two games lost to injury, ideally less
2) A QB rating of at least 95
3) A QBR of at least 60
4) As I mentioned previously, I would like to see his YPA hit 7.0 or better
I am not saying Jones will hit these marks, as I can't predict the future. I do think there is a reasonable chance he will, but I am not going to go far as to say he is favored to do so.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 01, 2024, 10:41:32 AMSo then what is your baseline expectation for Jones this season?
What will be a good season for you? Is that 4,000 yards 20 tds and 5 int or what?
You obviously think Jones will ascend, so was does that look like in production?
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 01, 2024, 10:19:19 AMDJ has an injury guarantee in his contract for 2025. That fact may push the Giants to bench DJ in the second half if the season is out of hand (as other NFL teams dealing with such guarantees have done). Here is the explanation by Dan Duggan
Quote from: Ed Vette on May 01, 2024, 06:46:55 AMFormer NFL executive and current analyst Michael Lombardi believes that New York Giants co-owner John Mara impacted the club's decision to not spend the sixth pick of the 2024 NFL Draft on a replacement for starting quarterback Daniel Jones.The fact that Mara is in love with a pedestrian Qb is scary for the future of our franchise.
"And remember, John Mara, the president of the team -- he's the reason why Daniel Jones is making all that money -- he loves Daniel Jones," Lombardi said during a Monday appearance on sports radio station 106.7 The Fan, per Dan Mennella of Audacy. "He drafted Daniel Jones as the sixth pick overall. Nothing would make them more happy than Daniel Jones being successful. They're almost willing it to happen. It won't, but they're hoping it will."
Specifically, former Giants general manager Dave Gettleman selected Jones with the sixth pick of the 2019 draft. Current New York general manager Joe Schoen and Mara came together to sign Jones in March 2023 to a four-year contract that could be worth up to $160M.
The Giants can escape that agreement next offseason as long as the 26-year-old isn't dealing with a football-related injury at that time.
This past March, well-known radio host and FS1 personality Colin Cowherd suggested that Mara wanted a quarterback in Jones who Schoen and head coach Brian Daboll "privately don't want."
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/amp/former_executive_has_theory_on_why_giants_didnt_draft_daniel_jones_replacement/s1_13132_40300610
Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 01, 2024, 10:46:49 AMI think the organization would be negligent if they see he is still seeing ghosts to allow him back out there to run into defensive linemen. Yes all of his sacks aren't on him but he didn't help the situation either.
I would be perfectly content with them wrapping him in bubble wrap and placing him at the end of the bench. Then telling him if he wants to play he's welcome to waive the injury clause, if not enjoy your 🍿.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 01, 2024, 10:41:32 AMSo then what is your baseline expectation for Jones this season?
What will be a good season for you? Is that 4,000 yards 20 tds and 5 int or what?
You obviously think Jones will ascend, so was does that look like in production?