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#1
Big Blue Huddle / Re: What does Daniel Jones nee...
Last post by kartanoman - Today at 12:28:00 PM
Maybe Al Davis had it right all along ...

"Just win, Baby!"

Peace!
#2
Big Blue Huddle / Re: What does Daniel Jones nee...
Last post by 4 Aces - Today at 12:18:55 PM
It's true he regressed last year.

But any fair, deep-dive analysis?

If you were honest with yourself and someone told you Andrew Thomas, Saquon Barkley and Darren Waller were going to get seriously hurt immediately, and that Parris Campbell was going to bust, what would your expectations be?

As painful as last year was (literally, for DJ) - you can't evaluate anything. It was a fiasco. That's why he's still here, as the starter, with the Giants not desperate to draft just any QB. 
#3
Big Blue Huddle / Re: What does Daniel Jones nee...
Last post by Painter - Today at 12:02:57 PM
Quote from: Uncle Mickey on Today at 10:51:03 AMHe will need to perform at a level that is commensurate with the better talent that is assembled around him.

Provided that the OL under Bracillo takes the expected and hopeful jump to league average or better in the advanced metrics like time to pressure and quality of pressure, and Nabers ends up being closer to OBJ and J'Marr Chase and Justin Jefferson rookie year than Rueben Randle, then DJ's production should not just slightly improve but drastically.

I hate placing numbers on this kind of thing because there are so many things that can happen in a season, but I'll play along.

His rookie year he threw for 24TDs and 12 INTs in 12 games.  I would fully expect something around that 2:1 per game ratio to justify continuing with him. So something in the area of 34TDs and 17INTs and 4000+ yards over a full season.

4000 yards by the way would put him right around the top 10 of last years QB rankings.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/nfl-passing-yard-leaders-2023-to-2024

For more context 34 TDs would have been top 2 last year.

Top 10 puts him around 25TDs

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/nfl-passing-td-leaders-2023-to-2024


So asking for 34 as a barometer to keep him may be a bit extreme lol

25 TDs relative to last years top 10 is probably a fairer number.

It just ain't that complicated. Good gosh!!!

Cheers!
#4
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Did Mara actually "love" d...
Last post by Painter - Today at 11:57:55 AM
I don't necessarily disagree with Gettleman's opinion re so called, "media experts". However, I must remind our resident cognoscenti that on the very day that John Mara announced his decision to continue with the family history of cronyism, I suggested that he and his bloviating crony were "clowns".

On that basis, I don't give a flying you know what for what any Mara thinks or does regarding anything other than the choice of a GM and practice field attire. On a positive note, however, at least he is not Jerrah Jones.

Cheers!
#5
Big Blue Huddle / Secretariat--Preakness
Last post by ELCHALJE - Today at 11:38:31 AM
#6
Big Blue Huddle / Re: 33rd Team sees RB Tracy ma...
Last post by Uncle Mickey - Today at 11:29:53 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 11:15:13 AMTYRONE TRACY JR., RB, NEW YORK GIANTS
The New York Giants made the (wise) decision to let Saquon Barkley walk in free agency after six years of production. The Giants are in a semi-rebuild, so throwing even more money at a running back who has struggled to stay healthy didn't make sense. Instead, the Giants signed Devin Singletary to a modest contract and didn't select a running back in the first four rounds of the 2024 NFL Draft. However, they added one of this class's most intriguing backs in former wide receiver Tyrone Tracy Jr.

Tracy started his career with the Iowa Hawkeyes, appearing in 38 games as a wide receiver. But after modest production, he transferred to Purdue and started five games at receiver (2022). Ahead of the 2023 season, Tracy transitioned to running back, which likely saved his career. In his first year playing the position, Tracy led the Big Ten in yards per carry (6.3) and scored eight rushing touchdowns.

While Tracy isn't ready to be a full-time running back (146 career carries in college), he is an incredible athlete who is a threat to score on any play. He posted a 9.78 RAS score, which ranks 42nd all-time (out of 1,903 running backs) after posting a 40-inch vertical jump at 209 pounds.

Only Singletary is ahead of him on the depth chart, so Tracy should find a role right away. He is the most explosive running back on the roster and could have a Tony Pollard-like impact on the Giants in Year 1.

https://www.the33rdteam.com/day-3-nfl-rookies-who-could-make-instant-impact/

I would agree with this. RBs tend to have the lowest learning and impact curve of all the positions. The hardest thing to learn is usually the pass blocking aspect. Even with that, rookie RBs are often utilized in play designs that require the RB less chance to stay in and pass block until they are better ready in this area.

I am really excited about this Tracy pick and like the pick a lot more than the Gray pick of last year. Although Gray with a better offensive line might be a bit more productive when he gets going downhill.
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Big Blue Huddle / 33rd Team sees RB Tracy making...
Last post by MightyGiants - Today at 11:15:13 AM
TYRONE TRACY JR., RB, NEW YORK GIANTS
The New York Giants made the (wise) decision to let Saquon Barkley walk in free agency after six years of production. The Giants are in a semi-rebuild, so throwing even more money at a running back who has struggled to stay healthy didn't make sense. Instead, the Giants signed Devin Singletary to a modest contract and didn't select a running back in the first four rounds of the 2024 NFL Draft. However, they added one of this class's most intriguing backs in former wide receiver Tyrone Tracy Jr.

Tracy started his career with the Iowa Hawkeyes, appearing in 38 games as a wide receiver. But after modest production, he transferred to Purdue and started five games at receiver (2022). Ahead of the 2023 season, Tracy transitioned to running back, which likely saved his career. In his first year playing the position, Tracy led the Big Ten in yards per carry (6.3) and scored eight rushing touchdowns.

While Tracy isn't ready to be a full-time running back (146 career carries in college), he is an incredible athlete who is a threat to score on any play. He posted a 9.78 RAS score, which ranks 42nd all-time (out of 1,903 running backs) after posting a 40-inch vertical jump at 209 pounds.

Only Singletary is ahead of him on the depth chart, so Tracy should find a role right away. He is the most explosive running back on the roster and could have a Tony Pollard-like impact on the Giants in Year 1.

https://www.the33rdteam.com/day-3-nfl-rookies-who-could-make-instant-impact/
#8
The Front Porch / Re: I still read an actual pap...
Last post by Sem - Today at 11:04:48 AM
I have no idea how it all transpired, as I said we were totally unaware anything had happened until months later when we received the letter from their lawyer. But there was definitely no ambulance as there's no way we wouldn't have heard that. It's funny, in retrospect on the day it happened we even woke up early to catch a flight. She and her husband both worked as a team delivering papers for their son, so I can't imagine the "screaming in agony for 30" minutes is accurate. The strangest part of this saga is the wife worked as a manager at Lockheed-Martin, and the husband and I played basketball one year together in a rec-league. I considered him more than an acquaintance, though not a close friend. I even coached their son in JV CYO basketball. None of them ever spoke to us ever again after this happened, and our insurance lawyer advised us not to reach out to them. I told my insurance that I highly doubted their story had happened, or at least in the way they claimed. Didn't seem to matter though, my insurance rolled over like a puppy and paid out the $50 grand.
#9
Big Blue Huddle / Re: What does Daniel Jones nee...
Last post by Uncle Mickey - Today at 10:51:03 AM
He will need to perform at a level that is commensurate with the better talent that is assembled around him.

Provided that the OL under Bracillo takes the expected and hopeful jump to league average or better in the advanced metrics like time to pressure and quality of pressure, and Nabers ends up being closer to OBJ and J'Marr Chase and Justin Jefferson rookie year than Rueben Randle, then DJ's production should not just slightly improve but drastically.

I hate placing numbers on this kind of thing because there are so many things that can happen in a season, but I'll play along.

His rookie year he threw for 24TDs and 12 INTs in 12 games.  I would fully expect something around that 2:1 per game ratio to justify continuing with him. So something in the area of 34TDs and 17INTs and 4000+ yards over a full season.

4000 yards by the way would put him right around the top 10 of last years QB rankings.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/nfl-passing-yard-leaders-2023-to-2024

For more context 34 TDs would have been top 2 last year.

Top 10 puts him around 25TDs

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/nfl-passing-td-leaders-2023-to-2024


So asking for 34 as a barometer to keep him may be a bit extreme lol

25 TDs relative to last years top 10 is probably a fairer number.
#10
Big Blue Huddle / Re: NFT: NY Rangers 2023 - 202...
Last post by Uncle Mickey - Today at 10:40:54 AM
Quote from: files58 on Today at 10:20:19 AMYes Igor got his stick on the second goal, it happened very quickly, and Anderson should have stopped Panarin's eventual game winner. Carolina will make some adjustments within their structure. However they play one game, Pressure, and at a consistent, constant level. They will need to raise their level of play to beat this Ranger team. I don't know that they can. If they do, hats off to them. That's their DNA under Brind'A'Mor. Love that already in Game 1 they are frustrating Goetzel. He got chippy yesterday.  I'm watching all the series. This Ranger team can beat all 7 remaining teams, and can lose to the same. It's that close this year. Would love to see an Adamms Family train wreck between Fla-Bos. 

This team like the Knicks seem to have a special level of intangibles. Their cohesiveness and ability to perform in the clutch makes them really unique. Also if Shesterkin continues his post all star performance throughout the playoffs, I like their chances to win the whole thing.