Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: BluesCruz on Today at 09:30:24 AMSome things the Giants do are baffling to me. I hope with Saquon gone, and the upgrade of the WRs that we move to a more wide open unpredictable offense. Lets see where this goes

The offense will have the benefit of surprise to start the season and will be unpredictable until about mid-season, when there's enough film for opposing DCs to adjust.

Anticipating all the Barkley threads from the "I don't care" contingent     

Quote from: AZGiantFan on May 20, 2024, 08:54:49 PMThat's funny, since with better personnel (Thomas and Pugh) they gave up a higher percentage of sacks when he was under center than they did when DJ was under center.

Sacks aside they seemed to be more in synch for DeVito (and Tyrod Taylor),that's what I meant

The not so slippery Daniel Jones seemed constantly running for his life

Quote from: Painter on Today at 12:33:22 PMHaving a vacuous biased agenda hardly depends on beat writer and other media discussions, now does it?

Cheers!

What agenda could possibly served discussing how Nabers will fair as a rookie when you take the qb out of the conversation which I did at the beginning of the post?

Quote from: BluesCruz on Today at 12:53:51 PMI don't know.  Did Pugh retire
Last I heard he intended to bulk up and get ready to rumble in 2024

Guy loves the Giants team and was a coach on the field.  A great confidence boost to an online that looked lost

My sons best friend was a neighbor of Pugh's growing up and had nothing but great things to say about Justin Pugh

That's the problem with Pugh. Great guy but was a terrible player last season. So far he's still on the couch. He may be waiting for another rash of injuries before some team calls him out of desperation. But he's absolutely a great guy. He's the guy you'd invite to the cookout every time.

R.I.P.

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on Today at 12:35:33 PMJustin Pugh did not represent an improvement in personnel. He was terrible on the field, despite his likeable personality. He had a 41.6 PFF grade (compared to 42.4 for Ezeudu who's been a complete disaster).

Pugh was on the couch, played 12 terrible games for the Giants, and is back on the couch where he belongs

I don't know.  Did Pugh retire
Last I heard he intended to bulk up and get ready to rumble in 2024

Guy loves the Giants team and was a coach on the field.  A great confidence boost to an online that looked lost

My sons best friend was a neighbor of Pugh's growing up and had nothing but great things to say about Justin Pugh

I voted for 4 but I'm probably somewhere between 4 and 5. I don't dislike the guy, but I don't want his team to do well and I wouldn't mind seeing a few weeks where he goes something like 18 carries for 42 yards. If he went somewhere outside the division I would've probably voted for 3, don't care.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on Today at 09:46:37 AMI was watching some of the podcasts and heated and this was mentioned a few times.

Take the Qb out of it, no matter if it's Jones, Lock, or Devito will Nabers produce regardless of the Qb?

How much?

OROY?

Garrett Wilson went for 1042 yards despite having no one to throw him the ball. So is Nabers that talented that he'll get production no matter what?

The only 2 things holding me back from saying yes is the fact that our offense lacks the deep/intermediate routes that help production and that it seems like no matter what Slayton does his production is always capped at 700 and our 2nd wr at 500.

This is a good topic. I think the Garrett Wilson numbers represent a reasonable floor for Nabers with a bad QB situation. At least I hope that's the case.

Watching Wilson, the talent is undeniable. But he doesn't have the type of impact you want to see from an elite WR (no fault of his own).

I'm hoping Nabers's YAC production will elevate him to the next tier in terms of production and impact.

Initially, IMO he'll "improve" the production of the other WR's lined up with him more than hit home runs himself.

After he figures out the pro game and how/where he fits in (hopefully by game four) he'll start to show his stuff.

Only a super-blue-chip player will make much noise in the first four games, so I'm giving him some leeway.

Bob

PS. Don't get too pumped up if he looks great in the preseason... they'll try their best to make that happen but IMO it probably won't translate into the regular season for a while.