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MastodonQuote from: Painter on Today at 03:36:50 PMQuote from: Painter on May 07, 2024, 12:17:38 PMQB- Neutral. There is no basis to suggest that Daniel Jones, even if healthy, will be any better or worse than he has been. Better depth, yes, as it could hardly have been worse. Still, it's really all about DJ.I think overall a slightly better roster than he inherited after three drafts and FA is pretty poor. Rich posted the five year average PFF support teams and 2022 the year he inherited was the best year for the Giants.
RB- Neutral. Even if Barkley has a great year with the Eagles, as he did for a couple or three of his 6 seasons with the Giants, I can't help but to think of him as a "boom or bust" RB. That may be unfair, but I feel no loss in his departure. Still, while I am optimistic about the new additions and current roster, and so don't feel it to be Worse, I can't yet rate it as other than Neutral.
TE- Neutral. We can hope but there is no real basis to think or to say otherwise.
OL- Better. It could hardly have been worse. Except for questions regarding Neal and ORT, which I expect to sort itself out either there or at ORG and otherwise to be a better net roster overall.
DL- Better. Even with the loss of Williams at the 3-tech, I see the addition of Phillips plus Burns to Thibs and Ojulari at Edge or 4-Man as more than compensating for what proved to not be a good Wink D overall last year
LB- Better. Best in some time both Inside and Outside with those mentioned above and with Okereke, McFadden, and Simmons at MLB and ILB.
CB/Safety- Worse. Until proven otherwise, I can hope, but certainly can't say Better and feel that Neutral would be a bit of a cop out. I can say, however, that I am pleased to have Shane Bowen as the new DC. In regard to the play in and of the Secondary, I will guess off-the-ball / bend don't break coverage outside the 20s while none tougher/better/ stingier in the Redzone.
In any case, for now quien sabe?
You can infer what you will from my comments above re Ed's earlier query unless and until I feel a need for revision.
Cheers!
A neutral rating for QB and RB is reasonable but I'll point out that Barkley was four years younger. I believe the DL is worse but the Edge/OLB is stronger. Together that could be a neutral for me.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 03:04:35 PMFlott's 4.52 40 time is also a bit on the slow side by CB standards.
Quote from: Painter on May 07, 2024, 12:17:38 PMQB- Neutral. There is no basis to suggest that Daniel Jones, even if healthy, will be any better or worse than he has been. Better depth, yes, as it could hardly have been worse. Still, it's really all about DJ.
RB- Neutral. Even if Barkley has a great year with the Eagles, as he did for a couple or three of his 6 seasons with the Giants, I can't help but to think of him as a "boom or bust" RB. That may be unfair, but I feel no loss in his departure. Still, while I am optimistic about the new additions and current roster, and so don't feel it to be Worse, I can't yet rate it as other than Neutral.
TE- Neutral. We can hope but there is no real basis to think or to say otherwise.
OL- Better. It could hardly have been worse. Except for questions regarding Neal and ORT, which I expect to sort itself out either there or at ORG and otherwise to be a better net roster overall.
DL- Better. Even with the loss of Williams at the 3-tech, I see the addition of Phillips plus Burns to Thibs and Ojulari at Edge or 4-Man as more than compensating for what proved to not be a good Wink D overall last year
LB- Better. Best in some time both Inside and Outside with those mentioned above and with Okereke, McFadden, and Simmons at MLB and ILB.
CB/Safety- Worse. Until proven otherwise, I can hope, but certainly can't say Better and feel that Neutral would be a bit of a cop out. I can say, however, that I am pleased to have Shane Bowen as the new DC. In regard to the play in and of the Secondary, I will guess off-the-ball / bend don't break coverage outside the 20s while none tougher/better/ stingier in the Redzone.
In any case, for now quien sabe?
You can infer what you will from my comments above re Ed's earlier query unless and until I feel a need for revision.
Cheers!
Quote from: AZGiantFan on Today at 03:12:06 PMHe didn't do the evaluations, pff did. He did the math.
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