Big Blue Huddle

Theo is a very good player and I'm confident he'll try his darnedest to every job/task the Giants hand him.  Bob

Quote from: GloryDays on Today at 01:50:05 PMI think this team just doesn't get it. The offense lives and dies through their line.
Just throwing bodies at it doesn't work. Other teams' leftovers is not the way to have a dominant O line.
Just look at the Steelers. Their O line was decent, check their draft!
Evan Neal is a bust, who is the RT we can rely on to stop the pressure on DJ from that edge? Are they really relying on Eluemunor or Cajuste?
Who is behind Schmitz? Even if he improves, who's backing him up, Morrissey?
This to me is weird.. I hope I am wrong, but I doubt it. They are ignoring to address the line effectively, like they did last year too.

GDays: IMO they have confidence in OL's they've drafted in prior years -or- they plan to catch a veteran cut this summer or on final cut-down-day -or- they think they can draft a guard some time today -or- all of the above. Bob

Quote from: Hadron on Today at 09:25:26 AMThe Giants typically do well with certain picks in round 2: DT and safety. Here's hoping that trend continues.

Hadron: Long time, few posts... or have I been missing them somehow?  Bob

Quote from: Uncle Mickey on Today at 11:02:34 AMTackling technique is not picture perfect but his instincts, awareness , quick reaction time and the angles he takes are top notch.

Mick: Lawrence Taylor's tackling technique was also on and "as-needed" basis but he always got the job done. lol 

Quote from: spiderblue43 on Today at 08:42:47 AMDave,

I concur. Wpuld rather have a corner, but Nubin is a great alternative.

I can't believe the Commodes traded with the Eagles, handing them DeJean. Cooper is going to burn them. How stupid.

spider: We see all the players you mentioned in your posts above very much the same. DeJean is a guy I wanted for the Giants because he can play safety and corner, but I think Eagles will try to make him a safety. Another good pick by the Eagles, IMO. Bob

OK, this is one of those guys who does not look like a football player. Doesn't pass the eye test.

Everything about him seems out-of-whack and just plain wrong... until the ball is snapped.

Super instincts and blitz timing, outstanding vision while the ball is in the air (which allows him to anticipate very well and consistently locate himself right where the ball comes down... again and again. A play-maker.

Bob

This, IMO, could be the best value pick of the three so far.

Getting Nabers at six was clearly a good value, but getting Phillips in the 3rd round was a much bigger surprise.

Incidentally, Brugler had Phillips ranked higher than Nubin on the over-all list of best players in this draft.

Bob

Quote from: Painter on April 26, 2024, 01:48:01 PMNever mind the speculation about where Nabers will line up. He will play wherever he best suits the  Giants Offense as was the case with OBJ who began play as a Y- with some Slot- and later became a mainstay at the X-.

While the addition of a talent like Nabers to the Giants usual 6-man Receiver Corps including Hyatt, Hodgins, and Robinson was absolutely essential, it leaves a lot of room for them to keep Slayton this year as long as he's willing. Other than Boykin and/ or a punt returner type, it's not obvious who among the preseason roster would be more useful/valuable.

Cheers!

Larry: Absolutely, and I for one hope he stays. He's about to have a IMO great opportunity to elevate himself (through his production) this season. Having a WR everyone WILL worry about means that he will attract less attention from the defense... isn't this actually what every NFL WR really wants (or should hope for)?  Bob

Quote from: kingm56 on April 26, 2024, 01:45:19 PMI agree, Bob. I also don't get enough of dumpster Dan.

king: Thanks for reminding me. Haven't heard from him recently. @LennG or @T200 or anyone else... have you? Bob

Quote from: kingm56 on April 26, 2024, 01:29:22 PMReally great input! 

king: I never fail to read his posts and highly recommend them. They are IMO too few and far between. Bob

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 12:47:58 PMhttps://x.com/DanSchneierNFL/status/1783895059282239771

Rich: I agree with this point-of-view 100 percent and mentioned it briefly elsewhere (maybe even above).

There is a decent probability a veteran QB who's better than average could shake loose in the summer.

Maybe even sooner, if the Giants are willing to part with any of next year's draft picks. It's a real thing.

Bob

Probably a corner back, especially if Cooper DeJean or K-A McKinstry are still available.

If not, Mike Sainristil (not a typo lol) from Michigan will do, but I'd rather have one of the other two.

If no corners they like are still available, then probably an OL (like Ceri says... either Patrick Paul or Cooper Beebe).  I'd prefer Beebe, a true guard IMO.

Bob

Quote from: B1GBLUE on April 26, 2024, 11:41:22 AMNabers is LIGHT YEARS ahead of jalin hyatt. not even remotely in the same conversation.

B-one: I think you may have gone a bit overboard but I agree he's already better and more NFL-ready than Hyatt. lol

Quote from: sxdxca38 on April 26, 2024, 11:03:11 AMJust off the top of my head Amani Toomer didn't emerge until his 3rd year in the league, however that was twenty years ago.

I personally think Nabers should blossom right out of the gate, or within the first six weeks of the season.

sdx: A great point. It's actually IMO the difference between taking Nabers over Odunze. The former (as stated in another thread by someone) is likely to hit the ground running if he's ever going to hit at all. Odunze IMO is a lot like Toomer and it wouldn't surprise me if it takes him a while to grow into the NFL or if it takes his QB a while to learn that he really CAN be trusted (as his QB did in college). He doesn't get "wide open" often. You just have to throw him the damn ball and let him fight for it. I think his bust likelihood is the lowest of all three top WR's this year, but his ceiling is significantly lower than Nabers' and Harrison's. Bob

MadB: I agree with Phil. Yours is IMO a good and fair assessment of the situation, although I might quibble about Okereke... extremely reliable and consistent, but IMO at a level a hair below Pro Bowl. I don't see any room for "improvement" in his already solid game... I think he's already doing all he can or ever will. Bob