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Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 04:50:06 PMIf a 25 year old rookie running back from an ivy league school and who nobody heard of until a month or two ago makes good in the NFL, it would be a hell of a story, and also one that I'm fairly sure has never happened before, or at least probably not any time in the last 60-70 years.

There's a first time for everything, and it's always fun to root for these underdog/longer shot type guys like Platzgummer, Bryce Ford-Wheaton, Elerson Smith, etc. We'll see what happens. It would be fun to see him somehow make an impact, but I'm not sure I view that as base case.

Elerson Smith and Aaron Robinson are just a couple of what could have been players for this team.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40114750/new-york-giants-qb-tommy-devito-chip-shoulder

Nice article on Devito



Ryan Dunleavy
 noted that Thibs and Burns are glued to the hip pushing each other to be dominant

And that Dante Miller isn't just depth and has a real shot at RB2 vs Tracy.

Takeaways:

Work was done right outside the redzone doing 7/7 and 11/11 drills

Devin Singletary aka motor grabbed the 1st TD of otas.

Alex Johnson the UDFA from UCLA who led the pac 12 in INTs, impressed during rookie camp and continues to stand out now with the first Int of camp. Don't be surprised if he beats someone for a corner job.

Jones got a little work in 7 on 7 with wandale and nabors

Lock however took the lead for the majority of camp throwing to Nabers and everyone else.

The trio of Burns, Thibs, and Lawrence have really gotten close and are said to be building great chemistry up front.

Dru Phillips and Nubin are rooming together and working through the playbook together. It is said that Nubin has been calling some plays, will be interesting to see if it's him or Bobby OK with the calls

He's 5'8 195lbs

Not 5'5 200lbs

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-top-25-players-under-25-2024-nfl-season-sauce-gardner-cj-stroud

https://www.bigblueview.com/2024/5/20/24160656/4-things-to-watch-during-new-york-giants-otas

What are you looking for?

Anything in particular you want to see?

For me I want them to immediately find 5 guys on the line and give them time to gel

Interested in who is getting reps behind Singletary

Who is getting reps at the wr spots

And how the back 7 is going to shake out

Quote from: BluesCruz on May 19, 2024, 04:58:43 PMuntil we see the final 53's who knows.  As it stands we are bottom 5

certainly with Dave Brown uhhhhh Dan Jones at QB we will contend for the 1st pick

I have zero faith in this guy....never saw a QB regress so completely from his rookie season to the mess he became.  I partially blame the coaches, they coached him to dump off and it worked for one season.  Opponents caught on

now he has become the dump off king...its in his DNA now.  he is afraid to release the ball

The NFL has by rule changed to game to reward passing offenses   

You also thought Gary Brightwell was the next Barry Sanders.

Just saying Jones has a significantly better chance of being an elite Qb than Brightwell does of being Barry Sanders.

It also matters where it happened even though it shouldnt. I grew up in Mississippi but spent the past 12 years of my life in Los Angeles. I go back to the Southeast for work and Mississippi when going to most of the Ole Miss games in the fall and the law is completely different.

Los Angeles cops have to deal with so much that they aren't so petty. They aren't going to pull over someone for a failed signal, tag light being out, or anything small/petty.

Mississippi/Southeast cops I have found will find any minor infraction or reason to pull someone over.

These cops were clearly not prepared for what they were dealing with and over reacted to the situation. You would likely have not seen the same reaction to something so insignificant or the rush to detain and arrest if this had been in or around a major metropolitan area.

Just my opinion though.

They are giving him a shot hence why they signed him.

The likelihood that he makes the roster over guys drafted the past 2 years in Gray and Tracy is slim though.

Quote from: Trench on May 19, 2024, 01:10:41 PMI had fools gold after listening to all the experts after our camp and preseason games last year.

Boy was I wrong!...I will never ever look at preseason the same ever again. It's a waste

That's were the joint practices and preseason differ. All the notes coming out of the practices with the lions say they dominated us in every aspect. Beat writers chose to focus on a preseason game  because positive enthusiasm early gets more clicks than the alternative.

Quote from: Ed Vette on May 18, 2024, 09:26:37 PMHave they ever done that?

I think they've practiced with 2 of 4 previously but never 3.

Quote from: Ed Vette on May 18, 2024, 08:09:13 PMThere was some talk of another joint practice session with the Lions. If so that would be here.

I just spoke about this in another thread. I hope we practice with all 3 teams. Those practices will be the biggest tell as to were this team is currently. Not any of the otas, training camp, or preseason games.

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on May 18, 2024, 02:44:20 PMFair enough, if that's his point of view but I think we've learned from last year not to glean anything from the pre-season, let alone OTAs and mini-camp.

Curious to see who we practice with this offseason in joint practices.

Last offseason the Lions dominated us in joint practices and I remember the story being oh well Dan Campbell is an intense guy so the Lions probably practice hard-core and go all out being at home.

Then 1 series in Carolina with 4 vanilla Waller catches later and we are the greatest show on turf.

So wild to see the narrative run wild because 90% of the beat writers thought the offense was going to be great after that carolina game.

Quote from: Ed Vette on May 18, 2024, 07:57:31 PMHe has the Receivers, whether he has the Oline or not, its not his fault. According to almost everyone here besides us. So, unless he's not healthy, why would they pull him? To keep him healthy so they don't have to pay an injury clause? Admit they were wrong about him and not drafting a QB?

That injury clauses is a very real concern for a guy that has played 16 games only once in his 5 seasons in the NFL.

41.5 million total for 2025

-23 million guaranteed if he can't pass a physical at the beginning of the year

-12 million guaranteed if he isn't cut by march

So if he is on the roster in March it'll cost us 42 million on the cap and if he is cut he could only cost 22 million, maybe even 11 if we spread the dead cap over 2 years.

So the difference in 30 million or 12% of our cap will be decided on whether or not Jones simply plays injury free, not whether he plays great or bad.

Quote from: jimc on May 18, 2024, 10:13:44 AMI believe this is the crux of the issue. Being hyper critical of DJ can and should never be confused with supporting him. You may say being critical does not prevent you from rooting for him, but I disagree. I contend that most folks that are hyper critical are more likely to root against DJ in order to prove they are correct in their hyper critical analysis. 

hyper critical equals "shitting on"
hyper critical not equal to constructive criticism

I get what you are trying to say but you are completely wrong.

All the people that supposedly "hate" Jones on this forum are the primary ones in every game day thread rooting him on.

This is an NFL team forum, we are hyper critical of every single player and coach.

Most of this forum have been hyper critical of multiple players and coaches.

Neal
Barkley
Thibodaux
McFadden
Mckethan and Ezeudu
Xavier Mckinney
Bobby Johnson

And more

So it's ok for the majority of the fan base to be hyper critical of them constantly and root for them but it's different for Jones?

Nothing would have made me happier than Jones being the guy because then we wouldn't have to find one but that hasn't been the case.

I am actually on the opposite side of the Neal debate as I think he got really good reps in before getting injured this past season. The majority here though have been hyper critical of him for his comments and his play. Are they actively rooting against him?