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Quote from: MightyGiants on May 01, 2024, 02:01:57 PM@Jclayton92 and @Ed Vette

How would agents view Schoen if he tried to force a renegotiation of an injury guarantee?   While I have seen players be asked to take pay cuts or be cut, I have not witnessed a team try to renegotiate a guarantee.  There seems to be an unwritten rule (I am not fully versed; it might even be a written rule) that guarantees money in contracts.

Do you think that might hurt Schoen in future contract negotiations?

You view sitting him after an injury as forcing him to renegotiate his injury clause? That would be up to him and his Agent to bring that up.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 01, 2024, 02:01:57 PM@Jclayton92 and @Ed Vette

How would agents view Schoen if he tried to force a renegotiation of an injury guarantee?   While I have seen players be asked to take pay cuts or be cut, I have not witnessed a team try to renegotiate a guarantee.  There seems to be an unwritten rule (I am not fully versed; it might even be a written rule) that guarantees money in contracts.

Do you think that might hurt Schoen in future contract negotiations?

They did that with Wilson last year. Football is cut throat I think people are adult enough to realize that and accept it for what it is a shrewd buisness decision.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 01, 2024, 03:47:56 PMThey did that with Wilson last year. Football is cut throat I think people are adult enough to realize that and accept it for what it is a shrewd buisness decision.

Didn't they sit Wilson rather than try and get him to waive his injury guarantee?

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 01, 2024, 03:49:51 PMDidn't they sit Wilson rather than try and get him to waive his injury guarantee?

They tried to get him to waive it but he declined so they sat him.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 01, 2024, 05:09:34 PMThey tried to get him to waive it but he declined so they sat him.

"It's not personal, it's business."

Quote from: Ed Vette on May 01, 2024, 06:00:49 PM"It's not personal, it's business."

100%

Quote from: Ed Vette on May 01, 2024, 06:00:49 PM"It's not personal, it's business."

and @Jclayton92


The NFL Players Association told the Denver Broncos in a November letter that their threat to bench quarterback Russell Wilson if he refused to alter an injury guarantee in his contract was illegal, violated the CBA and could result in legal action against the team, a league source confirmed to The Athletic.

https://theathletic.com/5171778/2023/12/31/broncos-russell-wilson-nflpa/


The letter, sent by a law firm on behalf of the NFLPA and first reported by the Washington Post, said that if the Broncos "follow through on the Club's threat, the Club will violate, among other things, the Collective Bargaining Agreement, Mr. Wilson's Player Contract and New York law."

The letter added that Wilson and the NFLPA "reasonably anticipate arbitration and/or litigation against the Broncos."

The Broncos did not bench Wilson in the aftermath of the meeting about his contract. The 35-year-old veteran started the next seven games, the last of which was a 26-23 loss to the New England Patriots on Christmas Eve that put Denver's playoff hopes in peril.

On Wednesday, the team announced Stidham would start the final two games. Coach Sean Payton, who said Friday he was "not privy" to discussions about Wilson's contract between the quarterback and the team, said the decision was made solely for football reasons after a four-game stretch in which the Broncos went 1-3 and Wilson's play declined.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 01, 2024, 07:01:19 PMand @Jclayton92


The NFL Players Association told the Denver Broncos in a November letter that their threat to bench quarterback Russell Wilson if he refused to alter an injury guarantee in his contract was illegal, violated the CBA and could result in legal action against the team, a league source confirmed to The Athletic.

https://theathletic.com/5171778/2023/12/31/broncos-russell-wilson-nflpa/


The letter, sent by a law firm on behalf of the NFLPA and first reported by the Washington Post, said that if the Broncos "follow through on the Club's threat, the Club will violate, among other things, the Collective Bargaining Agreement, Mr. Wilson's Player Contract and New York law."

The letter added that Wilson and the NFLPA "reasonably anticipate arbitration and/or litigation against the Broncos."

The Broncos did not bench Wilson in the aftermath of the meeting about his contract. The 35-year-old veteran started the next seven games, the last of which was a 26-23 loss to the New England Patriots on Christmas Eve that put Denver's playoff hopes in peril.

On Wednesday, the team announced Stidham would start the final two games. Coach Sean Payton, who said Friday he was "not privy" to discussions about Wilson's contract between the quarterback and the team, said the decision was made solely for football reasons after a four-game stretch in which the Broncos went 1-3 and Wilson's play declined.

His play declined years ago and when I said it, I got pushback here. It was a stupid transaction. Diva.