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#4951
In my opinion, you have to look at what Jerry Reese and his Team believe after years of working the Draft feel is a position worthy of a first round Pick. Of course the Giants are not in second round territory but they are in the bottom third of the selection. They have shown that OL, Receiver, DL and DB are worthy of first round selection. QB may also be included because of Eli's age and fall from effectiveness off the previous season. Perhaps they will look at the grades of the players available at those positions and if they are weak look down and see that their second round choice may not be there because of a run on a position.

For a TE or RB to be picked in the first round I think the player would have to be very special.

#4952
NFL Draft, NY Giants style / Re: Trading draft picks
March 13, 2017, 10:00:51 PM
Linebacker? No. Offensive Lineman with the right criteria I mentioned? Yes. Positions of high collision are the concern. Never a RB. A QB possibly but the chances of finding one worth a first rounder are slim.


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#4953
NFL Draft, NY Giants style / Re: Trading draft picks
March 13, 2017, 06:44:22 PM
I agree but it depends on the player, his age and his existing contract.


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#4954
Quote from: Bob In PA on March 11, 2017, 10:57:15 AM
Ed: Just guessing (from the circumstantial evidence) but I now believe the Giants intend to "compete" strongly to retain Big Hank.

If they felt he was a goner (due to other teams overpaying) they probably would have signed at least one free-agent OL they lost (to the Raiders/Broncos) or allowed to walk (Newhouse).

Bob

That makes sense to me.
#4955
Unfortunately, the position the Giants are in is that they need O-Line help in my my opinion. If they agree and the rest of the teams in the draft believe so too then they tipped their hand. The first round pick really needs to be BPA. Not BPA at two positions. Two because if Hankins walks they need two. Before Newhouse was lost the #1 was DT. Now, it looks like a tie to me. 




#4956
Thank you for doing this, Rich. Great job!


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#4957
In that group, what would be bad luck, Bob?
#4958
We have a thread here based on an article about failed #1 Draft picks for the Giants. We have a lot of talk about how teams need to build from the Draft. There are teams that do this very well and they accrue Draft picks and comp picks. They give up on players about to age and deteriorate and build with youth.

The interesting fact is that the Giants have actually done pretty well with their first two Draft picks over the years. They have done well in Free Agency in most cases. How have they done in Drafting from rounds 3-7? Well...not very well at all. It's fair to mention that in rounds 4-7 teams draft for depth, development and Special Teams however there are players who are drafted in later rounds who have become outstanding players.

I won't look at last year's 2016 draft class because the jury is still out but I will say that it looks to be the best in this decade so far. It's arbitrary as to who had some meaningful contribution but I bolded those that are in my opinion. Here is 2010-2015 and you decide:

2015
Owa- 3
M. Thompson- 5
Davis- 6
Hart- 7

2014
Bromley- 3
A. Williams- 4
Berhe- 5
Kennard- 5
Jackson- 6

2013
Moore- 3
Nassib- 4
C. Taylor- 5
Herman- 7
Cox- 7

2012
Hosley- 3
A. Robinson- 4
Mosley- 4
McCants- 6
Kuhn- 7

2011
Prince- 1
Austin- 2
Jernigan- 3
Brewer- 4
G. Jones- 6
Sash- 6
J. Williams- 6
Scott- 7

2010
No #3
Dillard- 4
Petrus- 5
A. Tracy- 6
Dodge- 7
#4959
Nice job, Rich. Thank you!
#4960
How many tall receivers do the Super Bowl champs have?


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#4961
Quote from: Echunks on February 19, 2017, 01:52:19 PM
Watched him in the Senior Bowl and this kid's catch radius is crazy.  Plays a lot taller than he is because of it. I think he would be a great fit.


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Reminds me of OBJ with the catching radius.


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#4962
Good find! Great catching radius and gets the yards after catch. Loved the play where he drove through several defenders for extra yards.


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#4963
Chalk Talk / Re: ITP Glossary: Hip Fluidity
February 18, 2017, 10:49:11 AM
We're talking football, right?  :smoking:
#4964
Giants History / Re: Sam56 has Passed Away...
February 11, 2017, 08:54:51 PM
Loved the video


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#4965
The Front Porch / Re: Re: Good (or bad) Movies PART 2
February 11, 2017, 12:18:59 PM
I've seen several movies lately and enjoyed them all. I highly recommend Hidden Figures for it's historical significance, acting and story line. The Founder was enjoyable and interesting. Contrary to the critics I loved Passengers and can see a sequel coming out of it. We also saw the Big Screen Version of the original Singing In The Rain with my aspiring actress Niece Jennifer. The local AMC theater is doing a series of these. The Theater was packed! Everyone loved it and applauded. We're going to see Fences today.