Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 07:16:51 AMIt's funny; I have seen many list Ojulari as a loser.  I wonder if perhaps being a backup, Ojulari will finally stay healthy and perhaps find a niche (or at least that's what I hope)

This is a fair point. It would be a big win for the defense if it happens. And for Ojulari, it sucks to lose a starting job but you can have a long career and make a relative ton of money as a situational pass rusher. He should lean into the opportunity.

Quote from: Stringer Bell on Today at 12:34:11 PMThat's not what you said, though, and that's not what I opined on. Your statement was that "there absolutely was a market for Barkley."

And your last post is a good example of why my opinion is that perspective is off base. There are a whole lot of "ifs" and "normally" and "I'm assuming" for it to be the basis of a definitive statement that Schoen failed.

It was never intended to be a personal attack. Simply an opinion.

In my opinion there absolutely was a market.

In your opinion...

Quote from: Stringer Bell on Today at 12:11:14 PMMaybe you should go back and read the posts. I clearly said the assumption of a market wasn't a good one. That is far from definitive. I did not say the assumption was wrong.

Whereas you were the one with the definitive claim that "there was a market". And then act as if I attacked you personally simply by pointing out my opinion on the assumptions made.

No that's another incorrect assumption on your part. I won't speak for anyone else. My position is if Schoen called every GM of every contending team (excluding those with a healthy and premier RB) and no one wanted to give up a mid-round pick for Barkley, then Schoen did his job. However, if Schoen didn't do that then he failed to do the due diligence needed to create a market. Normally when you make calls to 12-18 GMs, there are numerous leaks that you're shopping the player. Since I didn't see reporting that that was the case, I'm assuming Schoen didn't do the work needed to create a market for a talented player.

Quote from: Stringer Bell on Today at 11:59:33 AMGive me a break. I'm not the one claiming that a mistake was made when there is 0 evidence to suggest there was a single team with any interest in trading a draft pick for him. In fact, the evidence suggests the opposite.

No you just made a definitive statement about the different markets as if you aren't every bit an armchair GM  who isn't speculating as much as anyone else. You don't know what they could've gotten for Barkley at the time. As others have pointed out, it's fair to think a playoff team would've given up a pick for him. Yet you seem to think that's an unreasonable take?

Quote from: Stringer Bell on Today at 11:42:59 AMThis is one of the biggest blind spots for arm chair GMs.

Unlike you. A REAL general manager. You have special insights no doubt. Smh.

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 10:09:05 AMDid you see what Barkley was paid? 

Yep. There was absolutely a market for Barkley. Not trading him during the season seemed odd. In hindsight it looks even worse.

I agree with both players mentioned. Jones for the obvious reason. Slayton no longer benefits from being the tallest midget in the receivers room (so to speak). Nabers is an elite talent and Hyatt/Robinson have a ton of upside. If Slayton wants the ball he's going to have to step his game up.

Ojulari is a loser based on the trade for Burns.

Neal is probably a winner, though that remains to be seen.

The incomplete for Ojulari is too generous. I think we've seen enough of him to know what he is. He's played more games than Aaron Robinson, Elerson Smith, and Rodarius Williams combined. Thankfully they have Brian Burns now.

Where's the "waiting for a QB" option?

On point 3, Schoen had better be proven right on his free agent moves. This draft looks a lot like a Jerry Reese draft where they prioritize athletic ability. Those types of drafts don't always work out for the best as we've seen over the years.

I'm okay with their approach if only because the roster lacks game changing talent. But it's contingent on the free agent additions on the OL and DL playing well. There's a lot on the line for Daboll but also for Schoen. If the OL continues to fail he's going to get a lot of the blame.

Quote from: madbadger on April 26, 2024, 08:31:57 PMIn fairness he was talking about his physical dimensions.

He didn't think of Jonathan Ogden. He compared Alt to Solder's length and athleticism. If we're talking about Nabers or Ogden it's a much different discussion. Alt isn't that guy. His style is actually similar to Solder.

https://x.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1783661112673566978?t=suNqKDrM-Ebiw37-kUT3-A&s=09

I won't be surprised if he turns out to be better than Mckinney. Good pick.

Belichick compared Alt to a young Nate Solder. In his prime Solder was good but never dominant.

On the other hand, I think Nabers has a chance to be another Antonio Brown. If he can keep his head on straight, he's going to be a force.

For me Nabers is the easy choice.

Caleb, Rome, Keenan Allen, and DJ Moore will be interesting.

Top-3 talent in this draft. Once the 3 QBs went, you can't pass on rare talent like this.