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Quote from: Ed Vette on Today at 08:05:39 PMCamp arm

I like his pocket presence significantly more than Devitos.

Quote from: AYM on Today at 09:30:54 PMFor what it's worth, the Giants gave up 20 more sacks than the 31st place team. It could be argued that there was a giant chasm between the Giants OL and the 28th ranked line.

You could very well be 100% right as I haven't looked at the overall pressures, rankings etc and just looked at the base ratings pff gave teams olines.

The problem though is that one qb is making pennies and one is making 8× the other qb a year. So yes does the 32nd to 28th line probably make some difference, absolutely but not enough that a guy making 8× is performing underneath a guy that shouldn't be starting.

So yes we can make all the excuses for Jones in the world as some of them are viable like the oline. Multiple backups though shouldn't look significantly better than your 40 million a year quarterback.

The fact that the media pundits, analyst, and everyone else are even discussing a backup as being a better option to a qb that is making 40 million a year is the problem.

Quote from: Bob In PA on Today at 09:49:54 PMTim: It is also possible making a move for Maye meant they'd rather have Maye than Lock (or Tommy). Bob

Bob,

The QB order is Jones, Lock, and DeVito. If they made a move for Maye, he'd have to be viewed as the eventual #1. If they liked Maye better than Jones, then, by extension, better than the other two as well.

I don't think they'd make a move to get to a top 3 pick to draft a backup.

Quote from: T200 on Today at 03:46:09 PMIf they made a move for Maye, that pretty much says they'd rather have him than DJ. QB is not a multiple player position like WR.

Tim: It is also possible making a move for Maye meant they'd rather have Maye than Lock (or Tommy). Bob

Quote from: Jclayton92 on Today at 07:41:01 PMIs there really that big of a difference in the 28th vs the 32nd to you? 

I understand you were trying to make a point that somehow there was a huge difference in the 28th vs 32nd but there isn't, not enough to jump the stats that much. Even if you want to say they have better wrs which they do, Lock still attacked down the field while Jones did not.

For what it's worth, the Giants gave up 20 more sacks than the 31st place team. It could be argued that there was a giant chasm between the Giants OL and the 28th ranked line.

Nothing's changed except Nabers so WTF?

As I said, it's all subjective, so it's all about personal taste. I'll never forget a word of advice from Simon Cowell to amateur singers trying to make it to the winner's circle. He said, "I cannot emphasize enough, the importance of picking the right song to demonstrate your voice...because the 'catchiness' of the song, is just as important as your voice". Boy ain't that the truth. There are great singers who sang songs that never connected with the audience, and that is what is needed to succeed in the music business. Some women would make this list had they chosen the right song

My ranking:

5) Tie between Bonnie Taylor and Pat Benatar – deep and unique alto voices with a growl. Taylor sounds almost like she gargled with broken glass before stepping up to the mic
4) I really like Linda Perry (4 Non Blondes) as a powerful rocker's voice. Had she not destroyed her vocal cords, it's possible she could have worked her way to number one in my book. Too little released material to fairly judge her. I love her deep alto voice and her switching to falsetto during her song
3) Stevie Nicks – a unique voice that worked perfectly for the music she sang. Very passionate woman with a stack of gold records
2) Gracie Slick – a unique and powerful alto voice with a rocker's heart. I just like her. I remember seeing her on stage at a beach in Ocean City anxious to hear "We Built this City on Rock and Roll", which she sang and I loved it. Later I read that she hated that song...LOL
1) Gotta give it to Joan Jett, a true rock and roller who plays guitar like a rock star and never strayed into pop or country, remaining true to her rock roots and didn't get lost in drugs and scandals. I always figured a true musician not only sang, but also played and instrument like it was second nature. I hope she gets royalties for Sunday Night Football using her song

Shout out to Janice Joplin who was a total rocker, I just didn't care for her music. But she was one of a kind. Dittos with Amy Winehouse and her ultra unique voice
I really love Johnette Napolitano with her deep rich alto voice, but even better when she jumps an octave in the same song and sings falsetto, which is actually more beautiful (or unique) than her alto voice. The contrast is incredible...and she plays bass guitar
Also, little tidbit about Debbie Harry (Blondie), one of the few soprano voices I like. Adopted at birth, she never knew her real parents. But her birthdate and place of birth coincided perfectly with date/place of stories by Marylin Monroe (where she lived as a teen), who repeatedly told others about getting pregnant as a teen and being forced to give it up for adoption. For years, people (conspiracists) believe Debbie Harry is actually Marylin Monroe's illegitimate child she never knew. They say you can see it in her eyes and hear it in her voice

Camp arm

Quote from: nb587 on Today at 07:39:45 PMI dont know the answer to this- just asking.  If you looked at the top 10 WRs today, or top 5, how many would you think are fast?

It is somewhat subjective who the five best receivers are, but I'll take a crack at it.

For "fast" I will use less than 4.45 on the 40. I think that's a fair cutoff for this position.


Is each of the below players fast?

Tyreek Hill (4.29): Yes
Cee Dee Lamb (4.5): No
Amon-Ra St. Brown (4.61): No
Ja'Marr Chase (4.38): Yes
AJ Brown (4.49): No

2 yes, 3 no.