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#1
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Seems like a lot of commen...
Last post by y_so_blu - Today at 02:14:01 PM
Nah. They like Jones too much to not start him.

Do I think Lock will have to replace Jones at some point in the regular season? Yes.
#2
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Seems like a lot of commen...
Last post by Painter - Today at 01:43:12 PM
Quote from: Trench on Today at 12:47:59 PMThis board has extreme bias going both ways for and against Jones. It is far from a one way ticket.

And that is ok. We are all just fans.

Sorry, while I understand why you might choose to suggest it, I don't agree. We are not all just fans when there are those among us who, rather than root for the team's success, feel compelled to make every relentless effort to demean someone like Daniel Jones despite being fully aware, as are we all, of the uncertainty regarding his future and with it both the challenge and consequences involved for all concerned. For such people here, it is both meanspirited and gratuitous and hardly reflects that of a true Giants fan.

Cheers!
#3
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Seems like a lot of commen...
Last post by todge - Today at 01:36:46 PM
Quote from: Trench on Today at 09:33:12 AMLike it or not, our (not one but TWO) backup QBs played markedly better than the 40 million dollar man. People will say that is because we were missing Andrew Thomas. One person doesn't make a team. The argument would hold some weight if not for the fact TWO backups played much much better and even beat an inter division rival.
Jones faced the early part of the schedule. Their losses were to: Cowboys, 49ers, Seattle, Dolphins and the Bills. Everyone knew the Giants weren't winning those games. Taylor and DeVito played the softer part of the schedule.

You also said "one person doesn't make a team". This statement is usually correct but it really depends on what position and who the replacement was. Thomas was out but his replacement Ezeudu was totally overmatched at left tackle. The early schedule also included the rookie OLs starting when they clearly weren't ready. As the season went on, Thomas returned and the rookie OLs matured. Bredeson , who was awful, was replaced by Pugh. Even Aikman and Buck stated that "Jones never had a chance". Which he didn't with only 1.7 seconds until the pocket totally collapsed.

Taylor and DeVito faced the softer part of the schedule and both played behind better offensive line play than Jones had to deal with.


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#4
Big Blue Huddle / Re: A Trip Down Big Blue Memor...
Last post by LennG - Today at 01:14:40 PM

 Just came across this clip and thought people might enjoy it and 'learn' something about one of the all-time great NY Giants


#5
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Giants rookie CB Andru Phi...
Last post by MightyGiants - Today at 12:57:58 PM
PFF had listed Phillips as the best 3rd round pick


ROUND 3
PICK 70. NEW YORK GIANTS: CB ANDRU PHILLIPS, KENTUCKY
The Giants drafted Deonte Banks in the first round of last year's draft and now add more youth to that group early in the third round this year. His career-best 23 defensive stops led all SEC cornerbacks in 2023, and his 72.9 PFF coverage grade was also the best mark of his career.

https://www.bigblueview.com/2024/5/8/24152074/pff-names-ny-giants-cornerback-dru-phillips-the-best-pick-of-the-third-round?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=bigblueview
#6
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Daboll complained about hi...
Last post by MightyGiants - Today at 12:56:49 PM
Quote from: Uncle Mickey on Today at 12:53:48 PMThe Malik Nabers addition is going to make it difficult for defenses to shade coverage over the top of Jalin Hyatt like we saw at times in 2023.
Instead, we could be looking at a lot more rolled coverages toward Nabers & one-on-one opportunities for Hyatt to beat his man #Giants

Daboll when he came on board made a comment that we must be one of the slowest teams in the NFL. He emphasizes speed kind of like that Dolphins ball coach does.

THey have transformed team speed and Theo is pretty fast for a 6'6 255-260 pound TE too.

That is the impact a true number one WR has on an offense.  Not only does he make the QB's life easier, but his fellow WRs tend to benefit by having to face lesser defenses due to the focus on the number one guy.
 
#7
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Seems like a lot of commen...
Last post by MightyGiants - Today at 12:55:21 PM
Quote from: Uncle Mickey on Today at 12:50:43 PMMacAdoo was itching to get Geno playing over Eli so anything can happen when you are not the regime that drafted said QB.

Apart from that, I think DJ would beat out Lock if they are on level playing ground.

A lot of the outrage over the Giants breaking Eli's consecutive starting streak was due to the quarterback starting in Eli's place, Geno Smith.  I wonder if how Geno has played with the Seahawks the past two seasons might have some people reconsidering the outrage over starting Geno Smith.

Ben McAdoo has his shortcomings, but he seems to have a pretty good handle on QB assessments, or at least as well as anyone, since it's a bit of an inexact science.
#8
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Daboll complained about hi...
Last post by Uncle Mickey - Today at 12:53:48 PM
Benn busy at work so not sure if this was posted in here (or elsewhere).....

Dan Schneier
@DanSchneierNFL
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21h
The #Giants have all of the sudden built out one of the fastest WR corps in the NFL
Malik Nabers 4.38
Darius Slayton 4.39
Jalin Hyatt 4.40
Wan'Dale Robinson 4.44
From an Xs&Os standpoint, having this level of speed on the field should force Ds to cover every blade of grass.

Dan Schneier
@DanSchneierNFL
·
21h
The Malik Nabers addition is going to make it difficult for defenses to shade coverage over the top of Jalin Hyatt like we saw at times in 2023.
Instead, we could be looking at a lot more rolled coverages toward Nabers & one-on-one opportunities for Hyatt to beat his man #Giants

Daboll when he came on board made a comment that we must be one of the slowest teams in the NFL. He emphasizes speed kind of like that Dolphins ball coach does.

THey have transformed team speed and Theo is pretty fast for a 6'6 255-260 pound TE too.
#9
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Seems like a lot of commen...
Last post by Uncle Mickey - Today at 12:50:43 PM
MacAdoo was itching to get Geno playing over Eli so anything can happen when you are not the regime that drafted said QB.

Apart from that, I think DJ would beat out Lock if they are on level playing ground.


#10
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Seems like a lot of commen...
Last post by Trench - Today at 12:47:59 PM
Quote from: AZGiantFan on Today at 11:57:47 AMThis discussion wouldn't be necessary if every post of yours about DJ didn't reflect your extreme bias.  Like ignoring the difference in sacks rates.  Blaming the sacks on DJ. Ignoring the difference between the 7th ranked WR group and bottom 5 receiver group. 

This board has extreme bias going both ways for and against Jones. It is far from a one way ticket.

And that is ok. We are all just fans.