https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1744456047803138557?s=20
Note- this is why re-sign and resign should be spelled properly :D :P
Jay Glazer deserves an apology
I guess the question now is will he get serious consideration for a HC job. My guess is no, but I could be wrong.
Pierce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Daboll's seat just got a LOT hotter for next season. For right or wrong a substantial portion of the fanbase thinks Wink is the better coach of the two so he has to get this hire right.
https://x.com/JordanRaanan/status/1744458549210562933?s=20
I don't see how this is a good look at all for Daboll.
Quote from: londonblue on January 08, 2024, 03:40:32 PMDaboll's seat just got a LOT hotter for next season. For right or wrong a substantial portion of the fanbase thinks Wink is the better coach of the two so he has to get this hire right.
I agree; firing the ST Coordinator and O-line coach was justified. Wink quitting on you is less than ideal as the baseline is very high (and the disruption of the scheme will cause issues), so replacing Wink will be more like trying to get a DC as good rather than a clear opportunity for an upgrade.
This is a damned shame.
Don't let the doorknob hit ya!
I don't want anyone here that doesn't want to be here.
There will be leaks on what went on between them. Daboll is in a tough spot now. He has to rally for next year or it might be his last.
I'm torn about this one. I love Wink's attacking style of defense and its obvious players like playing for him, but the defense has not been in the top 10 while he's been here. Especially in stopping the run, they haven't been dominant.
Let's see who they hire before I get upset.
Wink left Baltimore under strange circumstances. It was talked about as "amicable" at the time, but I think that was just the two parties not calling attention to the situation. I think Wink is a good coach, but it appears he is not always content with his situations. And Daboll's abrasive personality certainly did not mix well.
Quote from: SlotCorner on January 08, 2024, 03:55:24 PMI'm torn about this one. I love Wink's attacking style of defense and its obvious players like playing for him, but the defense has not been in the top 10 while he's been here. Especially in stopping the run, they haven't been dominant.
Let's see who they hire before I get upset.
It could very well work out for the best. It has for Baltimore.
Quote from: SlotCorner on January 08, 2024, 03:55:24 PMI'm torn about this one. I love Wink's attacking style of defense and its obvious players like playing for him, but the defense has not been in the top 10 while he's been here. Especially in stopping the run, they haven't been dominant.
Let's see who they hire before I get upset.
A Wink defense probably needs at least three good pass rushers. We have one and a guy thats injured 50% of the time. Pretty miraculous Wink got as much as he did from this group.
Quote from: MightyGiants on January 08, 2024, 03:49:52 PMI agree; firing the ST Coordinator and O-line coach was justified. Wink quitting on you is less than ideal as the baseline is very high (and the disruption of the scheme will cause issues), so replacing Wink will be more like trying to get a DC as good rather than a clear opportunity for an upgrade.
How about Ron Rivera? Of course his style is a 180 from Wink's but fishtail philosophy from year to year seems to be the Giants' MO.
we are in deep doo doo
no Wink, The poster boy likely returning, the Boy Scout QB returning
Ughhhhhh
I see 0-17 as a possibility
what happened to Chicago after Buddy Ryan left?
They are still reeling 45 yrs later
I know the knee jerk reaction is to say this reflects poorly on Daboll but I'm not sure it does. When Daboll was hired Martindale was the best defensive coordinator available.
Being an offensive coach the thinking was that he could outsource the defensive side of the ball lightening his work load and making the transition from coordinator to head coach easier. Initial it worked but in the end you can't have two alphas on the staff.
Can't really blame Daboll because from afar it's nearly impossible to get a feel for another coaches day to day personality. I suppose he could have settled for an inferior candidate that he knew but he wanted to give this a go. It's a shame that it didn't work but best of luck to Wink. Hopefully Dabs crushes the next hire. If not I could see the Giants hiring Wink at the end of next year to replace Dabs.
Time to clear the decks and bring in Belichick
Winks "resignation" may be the tip off
Did Wink really run his scheme this year? Thought the defense improved when they blitzed less. Could be totally wrong, but it felt like the scheme went to less of sending more rushers and that's when they turned the corner.
I will be surprised if Wink ends up as a HC
Damn what a bummer , loved the style of defense .... Hopefully we can get someone who is similar in style
Seemed like the players loved Wink.... Hopefully this isn't mentally damaging
Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 08, 2024, 04:24:00 PMDid Wink really run his scheme this year? Thought the defense improved when they blitzed less. Could be totally wrong, but it felt like the scheme went to less of sending more rushers and that's when they turned the corner.
I will be surprised if Wink ends up as a HC
I agree. And I will add, the defense took a hit when Love left and if u think about it, the second half of the season our young safeties really showed promise (Belton/Pinnock)
Quote from: T200 on January 08, 2024, 03:51:29 PMDon't let the doorknob hit ya!
I don't want anyone here that doesn't want to be here.
I'm sad to see him go, but there were rumors several weeks ago that he and Daboll weren't getting along and it kind of showed on the sidelines where Wink rarely spoke to Daboll. The last time Wink seemed happy was when he hugged Schoen for drafting Banks
I think there was a bit of a power struggle going on between him and Daboll and it wouldn't be surprised if they gave him the opportunity to resign rather than fired. But you're right...if he didn't want the role he was paid to do, then that is not good for the team and he (and the team) will be better off in the long run
Geesh, there's a real house cleaning going on - some of it expected...this was not
I'm okay with this. Frankly I don't want a defense to rely on schemes. I much prefer mano a mano kick butt. Yesterday there were some plays where KT was 20 yards or so downfield in coverage. He belongs going forward from the LOS after the QB, and around ball carriers. Sometimes they tackled like they learned to do so in a convent. No more Ole, I want ball carriers/receivers to say O'sh$t. Tackle and hit down low.
Steal Spags from the chiefs !
Bummer, I really liked the identity he was bringing to this defense.
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Quote from: killarich on January 08, 2024, 04:35:15 PMSteal Spags from the chiefs !
Antonio Pierce would be nice if he is let go
Here's a WILD thought. Bill Belichick. Here Bill the defense is yours. At 70 years old it may suit his needs now. Daboll worked for and won SB's with him. Instant credibility and respect.
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on January 08, 2024, 04:33:06 PMI'm sad to see him go, but there were rumors several weeks ago that he and Daboll weren't getting along and it kind of showed on the sidelines where Wink rarely spoke to Daboll. The last time Wink seemed happy was when he hugged Schoen for drafting Banks
I think there was a bit of a power struggle going on between him and Daboll and it wouldn't be surprised if they gave him the opportunity to resign rather than fired. But you're right...if he didn't want the role he was paid to do, then that is not good for the team and he (and the team) will be better off in the long run
Geesh, there's a real house cleaning going on - some of it expected...this was not
They presented the opportunity in the form of firing two of his assistant coaches, whom he held in high regard. :o
Quote from: Trench on January 08, 2024, 04:38:41 PMAntonio Pierce would be nice if he is let go
I'd take Pierce for sure
I wish he was staying, but he ain't so, I like the idea of Pierce, although I don't think LV let's him go.
And it may be crazy but yes, bring BB back to the Giants and let him run the Defense!!
Completely on board with this. Wink doesn't put his players in the best place to succeed. It's scheme over talent. I'd much rather have someone that's going to put thibs, Lawrence etc in a position to get after the QB.
Our Defense has a lot of good pieces, we should be able to attract a quality DC as people know they can thrive with that Defense.
https://x.com/TheDougRush/status/1744461273746596068
He always ran good D's if I remember correctly
Just don't go to the Iggles.
Quote from: BluesCruz on January 08, 2024, 04:13:00 PMwe are in deep doo doo
no Wink, The poster boy likely returning, the Boy Scout QB returning
Ughhhhhh
I see 0-17 as a possibility
what happened to Chicago after Buddy Ryan left?
They are still reeling 45 yrs later
Did you have an episode? Didn't you just start a thread yesterday saying we were the ascending team in the NFCEast?
Quote from: Slugsy-Narrows on January 08, 2024, 04:55:03 PMhttps://x.com/TheDougRush/status/1744461273746596068
He always ran good D's if I remember correctly
Pierce, Frazier, and the Michigan DC would be my top 3 replacements.
Quote from: BluesCruz on January 08, 2024, 04:13:00 PMwe are in deep doo doo
no Wink, The poster boy likely returning, the Boy Scout QB returning
Ughhhhhh
I see 0-17 as a possibility
what happened to Chicago after Buddy Ryan left?
They are still reeling 45 yrs later
In more recent events, what happened to Baltimore 2 years after Wink left?
I don't have the numbers but I'd like to see Baltimore's defensive rankings in Wink's last 2 years there and the 2 years since he's been gone.
29th and 27th in run defense the last two years. And that's with a ton of cap invested in Dex, Leo and Okereke. I respect Wink and his body of work but I'm okay with losing him at this point. Not to mention two resignations in three years is also a red flag.
On another note, people here don't actually believe Belichick would take a coordinator role, right?
Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 08, 2024, 04:56:32 PMDid you have an episode? Didn't you just start a thread yesterday saying we were the ascending team in the NFCEast?
Yeah, it's very confusing. There was another poster like this a couple years ago. Blanking on his screen name.
Quote from: T200 on January 08, 2024, 05:00:20 PMIn more recent events, what happened to Baltimore 2 years after Wink left?
I don't have the numbers but I'd like to see Baltimore's defensive rankings in Wink's last 2 years there and the 2 years since he's been gone.
2020 - 2nd overall 18.9 pts/game
2021 - 19th overall 23.1 pts/game
2022 - 3rd overall 18.5 pts/game
2023 - 1st overall 16.5 pts/game
Which year was the Covid year? That was an anomaly.
Quote from: T200 on January 08, 2024, 05:00:20 PMIn more recent events, what happened to Baltimore 2 years after Wink left?
I don't have the numbers but I'd like to see Baltimore's defensive rankings in Wink's last 2 years there and the 2 years since he's been gone.
In Wink's four years in Baltimore they were 1st, 4th, 7th and 25th in defense. The last two years they were 9th and now 6th.
It's actually ridiculous how consistently good Baltimore is on defense despite completely turning over the roster.
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on January 08, 2024, 05:03:11 PMYeah, it's very confusing. There was another poster like this a couple years ago. Blanking on his screen name.
CruzMissile?
Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 08, 2024, 05:10:59 PMCruzMissile?
Possible. Getting old and my memory seems to be shot.
Ok now that Wink is gone and I'm over it
I want Pierce
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on January 08, 2024, 05:10:23 PMIn Wink's four years in Baltimore they were 1st, 4th, 7th and 25th in defense. The last two years they were 9th and now 6th.
It's actually ridiculous how consistently good Baltimore is on defense despite completely turning over the roster.
Best run organization in the NFL today IMO.
This shitshow started when Wink had some bad games and Daboll stepped in. There was a transformation and several games improved and impacted games and I credit Daboll. Wink's reaction however with his ego was stick to your side of the ball. You're the weak link.
Daboll pushed him out, knowing the firing of his boys without his blessing was a shot over his head.
I see him going to the Rams after he gave Mr. Generational a hand job.
If Harbaugh goes to the Raiders, Pierce is available but I think I like Frazier better.
You know that other thread about rating your confidence about The Giants future?? I am downgrading my "6" to a 3/4 now.
I could at least be proud of the defense at times this season. I guess if AP or Belichick came here then that would change things, but no way Belichick is Daboll's assistant. It doesn't look good for Daboll in my opinion right now. With Jones the likely starter and Wink gone I expect 3-4 wins next year.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 08, 2024, 04:54:39 PMCompletely on board with this. Wink doesn't put his players in the best place to succeed. It's scheme over talent. I'd much rather have someone that's going to put thibs, Lawrence etc in a position to get after the QB.
Our Defense has a lot of good pieces, we should be able to attract a quality DC as people know they can thrive with that Defense.
Me too.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 08, 2024, 03:37:50 PMI guess the question now is will he get serious consideration for a HC job. My guess is no, but I could be wrong.
Its not Buddy Ryan that resigned !!
I'm not a huge fan of Martindale's defense (I think the league has figured him out, that's why Baltimore moved on), but at the same time, this much turnover on the coaching roster makes me wonder if we shouldn't consider just firing Daboll after all.
Quote from: Puffy on January 08, 2024, 05:41:04 PMMe too.
The reason for the interceptions and turnovers have more to do with mixing up schemes than sending the house. DB's with their back to the QB don't pick passes and they don't defend the run. Maybe Wink learned something here.
Let's see if he has an NDA or if he can vent and run his mouth
Quote from: files58 on January 08, 2024, 04:41:55 PMHere's a WILD thought. Bill Belichick. Here Bill the defense is yours. At 70 years old it may suit his needs now. Daboll worked for and won SB's with him. Instant credibility and respect.
At his age Bill might actually like coming back to the Giants with the only responsibility being to do what he does best. The problem is that I don't see him ever being comfortable as an assistant at this point. And every time Daboll has a bad showing, the rumbling will start about how his successor is waiting in the wings. Nope, won't happen. Nice feel good fantasy though.
I like Antonio Pierce and have a lot of respect for how he handled his time in Vegas as interim head coach, but it should be noted that he has never been an NFL defensive coordinator before. He was the linebackers coach there and then promoted directly to interim HC after the Josh McDaniels firing.
I'm not saying he wouldn't be a good DC, but the point of the matter is that this would be uncharted territory for him. There is a difference between being in the CEO role and being a defensive tactician who calls plays on every snap. It would be a speculative hire from a skillset perspective if they went in that direction. He has no experience or track record as a DC.
I know the connection is there, but there are other guys I'd rather have than Frazier. He just seems like a Patrick Graham clone and an easy solution for Daboll/Schoen. I hope they don't just settle for the familiar and try to get the old gang back together.
Quote from: Ed Vette on January 08, 2024, 05:22:13 PMThis shitshow started when Wink had some bad games and Daboll stepped in. There was a transformation and several games improved and impacted games and I credit Daboll. Wink's reaction however with his ego was stick to your side of the ball. You're the weak link.
Daboll pushed him out, knowing the firing of his boys without his blessing was a shot over his head.
I see him going to the Rams after he gave Mr. Generational a hand job.
If Harbaugh goes to the Raiders, Pierce is available but I think I like Frazier better.
If he goes to the Rams is that McVay giving the reach around?
Is Frazier automatically the best option just because he and Daboll used to work together and get along? I guess at this point, just simply getting along with Daboll is important as that seems like it might be a challenge for many people, but I have often found the Bills' D to be underwhelming given the talent and number of stars they have had in recent years. McDermott is also a defensive background HC, so I don't know whether that is a selling point or the opposite with Frazier.
I am not saying Frazier would be a bad choice, but if Daboll just hires him because they're buddies instead of having a more comprehensive look across the league and maybe finding an even stronger candidate, that will be disappointing. This is an ultra-competitive, cutthroat league where winning is everything. It is not a social club where you just give the job to your cronies because it feels comfortable. Daboll's job is likely to be on the line next season, so I'm hopeful that he gets this.
Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 08, 2024, 06:22:10 PMIf he goes to the Rams is that McVay giving the reach around?
😆 🤣
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on January 08, 2024, 05:03:11 PMYeah, it's very confusing. There was another poster like this a couple years ago. Blanking on his screen name.
we refer to the poster from a few years ago as "he who shall not be named"
Coincidently his username started with Blue as well.
https://twitter.com/art_stapleton/status/1744491171001389522
This speaks volumes.....and not about Wink.
But about Daboll it screams loudly.
Now if Kafka does the same thing and resigns ...... :)
Quote from: shadowspinner0 on January 08, 2024, 03:34:33 PMJay Glazer deserves an apology
I feel like this happens often. Media reports something negative about the team. Team denies the report. Fans believe the team. Media was eventually proven correct. Wash-rinse-repeat.
Could this be a bunch of engineered melodrama with the end game sending Daboll to LA?
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Quote from: Doc16LT56 on January 08, 2024, 05:03:11 PMYeah, it's very confusing. There was another poster like this a couple years ago. Blanking on his screen name.
There ALWAYS seems to be one. Eventually they disappear or get banned and then another one pops up. Usually happens as we approach the draft. A few times I have been convinced some were the same person.
Quote from: AYM on January 08, 2024, 05:46:54 PMI'm not a huge fan of Martindale's defense (I think the league has figured him out, that's why Baltimore moved on), but at the same time, this much turnover on the coaching roster makes me wonder if we shouldn't consider just firing Daboll after all.
Disagree. To me, it shows he is willing to cut bait on guys he hired when it is not working.
https://x.com/giantinsider/status/1744519358825603125?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
The Giants were 6-11. I'm going to have a hard time getting upset about anyone leaving.
Quote from: MightyGiants on January 08, 2024, 07:55:34 PMhttps://x.com/giantinsider/status/1744519358825603125?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
Oh yes, they are both so much smarter than the rest of the room. Gee, no one could ever figure out that was their strategy.
Dabs, the Master and Schoen the Manipulator. We done been sold a cheap vaudeville act. Whatever happened when Men ruled the NFL.
Quote from: coggs on January 08, 2024, 07:28:06 PMDisagree. To me, it shows he is willing to cut bait on guys he hired when it is not working.
Then just cut bait instead of this Machiavellian rigamarole.
Also Joe Judge cut bait on Colombo after a half season.
Personally, the wrong coordinator left but I agree the league seems to have caught up to Wink's schemes.
Myself, I like Wink's style of defense, attacking all the time, but I felt he didn't use a few of his guys the right way, I wonder if Thibs will bloom more under a new DC, and then there is Simmons, who again, I felt was used as a situational player when he could be a star in the right defense.
I wish Wink the best and I'm sure he won't be out of work very long.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 08, 2024, 06:09:23 PMI like Antonio Pierce and have a lot of respect for how he handled his time in Vegas as interim head coach, but it should be noted that he has never been an NFL defensive coordinator before. He was the linebackers coach there and then promoted directly to interim HC after the Josh McDaniels firing.
I'm not saying he wouldn't be a good DC, but the point of the matter is that this would be uncharted territory for him. There is a difference between being in the CEO role and being a defensive tactician who calls plays on every snap. It would be a speculative hire from a skillset perspective if they went in that direction. He has no experience or track record as a DC.
I'd take Pierce over Daboll right now. He inspires. Maybe one day in his future he'll be the HC of the Giants.
Quote from: Giant Obsession on January 08, 2024, 08:14:59 PMOh yes, they are both so much smarter than the rest of the room. Gee, no one could ever figure out that was their strategy.
Dabs, the Master and Schoen the Manipulator. We done been sold a cheap vaudeville act. Whatever happened when Men ruled the NFL.
Wink took the bait because of his arrogance and eo, as Ed mentioned.
Here's the ironic thing: everyone knows Daboll was close to Bobby Johnson and that their friendship might prevent him from firing Johnson. Daboll fires 2 of Wink's favored assistants and Wink quits.
Also, I'm not sure about coaches' contracts but I'm assuming that by him quitting, Wink isn't owed any money versus if he was fired.
Quote from: londonblue on January 08, 2024, 03:40:32 PMDaboll's seat just got a LOT hotter for next season. For right or wrong a substantial portion of the fanbase thinks Wink is the better coach of the two so he has to get this hire right.
agreed
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Quote from: AYM on January 08, 2024, 08:35:26 PMThen just cut bait instead of this Machiavellian rigamarole.
Also Joe Judge cut bait on Colombo after a half season.
I am talking about guys like the OL, ST coach. If what is being rumored is true about the way wink was handled. Don't like it, but I can understand the business aspect of not wanting him to be a full FA by firing him.
Judge fired Colombo because Colombo threatened him physically.
11:20 PM and not a word on the team website regarding the resignation
Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 08, 2024, 06:22:10 PMIf he goes to the Rams is that McVay giving the reach around?r
No,that would be Aaron Donald. Try to avoid the visual.
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on January 08, 2024, 05:02:12 PM29th and 27th in run defense the last two years. And that's with a ton of cap invested in Dex, Leo and Okereke. I respect Wink and his body of work but I'm okay with losing him at this point. Not to mention two resignations in three years is also a red flag.
On another note, people here don't actually believe Belichick would take a coordinator role, right?
Once again, spot on, Doc!
The Giants have also ranked near the bottom of the NFL in sacks; this year, they were #29. As it relates to Wink's performance with the Giants, there seems to be a lot of cognitive dissonance; fans "feel/believe" he's an amazing DC because they recall his time with Balt, when he was blessed with multiple APs and produced top 5 defenses. However, that was a long time ago; in the recent past, he's led some very mediocre units over the last 4 years. Balt actually got better when he left.
As it relates to the Wink's performance with the Giants, the objective metrics are clear...his defenses have been outright terrible. They are, in fact, among the worst in the league. It shouldn't be too hard to find someone who can lead a bottom 4 defensive unit. In short, this isn't a huge loss....
I just hope whatver happens the Giants do NOT bring back Graham
People forget we only got Wink because once again it was Graham's decsion to leave , he was Daboll's first choice
That being said Graham's soft zone defense was dreadful to watch ..... Please Daboll dont do it
I don't like this resignation...
But as mentioned by someone before, nobody needs to stay that doesn't want to be here.
Graham? No thanks.
Spags if it was me. But he's unlikely to leave KC.
Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 08, 2024, 06:22:10 PMIf he goes to the Rams is that McVay giving the reach around?
"Mr Generational" got on the bus looking like Mr Bean after he dodged the bullet
But that was funny Hand Job .... Hillarious
It was the strangest endorsement I'd ever heard prior to a consequential game
Question about Graham. Clearly many here dont want him back based on style. I don't know the answer to this. How do his defenses stack up relative to others?
Quote from: nb587 on January 09, 2024, 07:58:27 AMQuestion about Graham. Clearly many here dont want him back based on style. I don't know the answer to this. How do his defenses stack up relative to others?
With Graham , whether down a TD or up a TD ... the other team is guaranteed to get at least a FG before halftime due to purposely giving 15 yard cushions
Hard Pass on Graham
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on January 08, 2024, 05:02:12 PM29th and 27th in run defense the last two years. And that's with a ton of cap invested in Dex, Leo and Okereke. I respect Wink and his body of work but I'm okay with losing him at this point. Not to mention two resignations in three years is also a red flag.
On another note, people here don't actually believe Belichick would take a coordinator role, right?
Do poorly rated OLBs have something to do with that? Asking for a friend.
Quote from: killarich on January 09, 2024, 08:34:08 AMWith Graham , whether down a TD or up a TD ... the other team is guaranteed to get at least a FG before halftime due to purposely giving 15 yard cushions
Hard Pass on Graham
Thats still a style question. I'm asking how the defenses ranked .
Quote from: killarich on January 09, 2024, 02:52:43 AMI just hope whatver happens the Giants do NOT bring back Graham
People forget we only got Wink because once again it was Graham's decsion to leave , he was Daboll's first choice
That being said Graham's soft zone defense was dreadful to watch ..... Please Daboll dont do it
Patrick Graham led the #15 ranked defense.
Wink led the #28 ranked defense.
Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 09, 2024, 08:38:22 AMDo poorly rated OLBs have something to do with that? Asking for a friend.
Lol, point taken. No shade intended to Wink. I'm a fan of his. I wasn't in a rush to replace him, just don't see it as a tremendous loss at this point.
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on January 09, 2024, 08:54:37 AMLol, point taken. No shade intended to Wink. I'm a fan of his. I wasn't in a rush to replace him, just don't see it as a tremendous loss at this point.
I think Wink is a decent DC, I dont think he is great. Found it odd that he was that loyal to those brothers given that one is the OLB coach and this team had issues with dealing the edges in the run game pretty regularly. I realize that ls not always an OLB responsibility on a given play, but it certainly is at some points.
Totally agree in your assessment.
Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 09, 2024, 08:38:22 AMDo poorly rated OLBs have something to do with that? Asking for a friend.
He also had pretty good interior linemen and a tackling machine in Okereke. Blaming our horrendous run defense on the OLBs sounds like making excuses.
Quote from: AZGiantFan on January 09, 2024, 01:41:38 PMHe also had pretty good interior linemen and a tackling machine in Okereke. Blaming our horrendous run defense on the OLBs sounds like making excuses.
I saw a lot of issues sealing edges. I think your point might actually point more to the OLBs than it doesn't.
Really not sure how evaluating positions is making excuses. If you say the MLB and IDL are good, and the team was poor against the run, where is the issue? Seems like if one thinks the interior is good, the issue is the edge guys.
What exactly happened to cause this parting? Why would Dabs be upset with him?
Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 09, 2024, 04:18:41 PMI saw a lot of issues sealing edges. I think your point might actually point more to the OLBs than it doesn't.
Really not sure how evaluating positions is making excuses. If you say the MLB and IDL are good, and the team was poor against the run, where is the issue? Seems like if one thinks the interior is good, the issue is the edge guys.
I was being ironic, sorry it didn't come through. If the problem was sealing the edges and the OLBs it puts a different light on the Wilkins firing.
Quote from: AZGiantFan on January 10, 2024, 03:25:02 PMI was being ironic, sorry it didn't come through. If the problem was sealing the edges and the OLBs it puts a different light on the Wilkins firing.
Sorry, I can be moronic when it comes to ironic
Whoever we get needs to stop putting Thibs in coverage
I hope we keep Simmons as well .... he can be used multiple ways