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#1426
I am more sold on those two TEs being very good NFL players than i am on those two OTs.  If available I'd take a dynamic player at a position of need and look for OT in round 2 or 3
#1427
Shoeless - that is 100% correct.  All the "I want this player" means little when the draft moves away from you.  A team has to have a diverse strategy that encompasses various draft scenarios.  One thing we forget is that they are on the clock and when all of a sudden something that seems unfathomable happens such as the 1996 draft when they thought they thought with the 5th pick, they'd get either Simeon Rice or Jonathan Ogden as they thought for sure Lawrence Phillips would be drafted before their pick.  Well, that didn't happen and they had to adjust on the fly and took Cedric Jones.  They didn't have a plan.
#1428
Unless it's a TE like OJ or David
#1429
NFL Draft, NY Giants style / Re: Players at 23
February 22, 2017, 02:52:54 PM
I do not super athletic super dumb players.  Their athleticism is worthless if they cannot grasp the nuances of their position at the NFL level.  Think Flowers may evidence that and possibly Adams at TE.
#1430
A third WR option can also be a TE.
#1431
BBH Archive / Re: Pick your New Head Coach
January 05, 2016, 01:12:14 AM
Nick Saban - 5 year gig. He retires when Eli retires
#1432
I have a brilliant idea.  Find a Ceri for each of the 32 NFL teams (i.e. being a passionate fan of 1 team).  This "Ceri" will know the schemes of his team, the needs, the type of players that the team typically covets (i.e. DEs who are 6'5" 270 pounds with long arms), the type of players or positions that the team does not draft in round 1, etc.  Assemble all 32 Ceris then have them put together a mock draft that makes sense.

Like the rest of you, it drives me insane to read a mock that has for example the Giants drafting a player who either does not fit the scheme at all or has some type of strange size (i.e. strange for the Giants) that they never go there.
#1433
Guys like him or your man crush Anthony at LB would be a nice 2nd round defensive pick up for us.  I can see us going defense in round 1 and 2, especially if we get a real three down rush/pass DL in round 1.

Right now my head is spinning.  I say that then watch us go offense in rounds 1 and 2.
#1434
I think the Giants have a particular love for relatively local product from Syracuse over to BC down to UConn.  With Jones, they see Jason Sehorn type athleticism and someone who can play meaningful minutes but with good upside.  I think Byron Jones is a Giant if he is available in round 2. 
#1435
Ceri - Do you have any thoughts about Byron Jones out of Connecticut as a free safety as he played safety at UCONN his first two years there before converting to safety?  He's 6'1" 199 pounds, runs a sub 4.4x 40 and broke the world record for the broad jump?
#1436
We are completely in sync on Preston Smith as I have said the past month or so how much I think he's Justin Tuck 2.0.  I think he is the absolute prototype for the Giants.
#1437
Hoping you add Preston Smith to your Monday addition Ceri.  Nice summary on the others
#1438
I see your point. 
#1439
Guys just seem to grown in the NFL.  Can he gain 15 pounds without losing speed?  Isn't Aaron Donald playing the 3 Tech at something like 290?

#1440
Your point is well taken Ceri.  We have to stop the run first and take that element away from an offense.  Can Bennett become a better run stopping DT?  I think he certainly has the aggressiveness to do it as he is a 100% motor guy.  What would be the reason to think he can't?