Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 10:39:20 AMFor sure. He's still on his rookie contract. Not that it's a negligible amount of money relative to what he has given them, but they should at least use the time he's on it to see if he can contribute meaningfully in any way.

He needs to perform this year though, one way or another. While I agree that the Giants need to explore other spots on the line if he continues to be a bust at OT, this team also has a history of clinging to, accepting underperfomance from, and making excuses for picks they had high aspirations for that, in reality, simply weren't the players they thought they were. This happened with Will Hernandez, Lorenzo Carter, and a host of others in recent times that I'd rather not have to name because it's not a very pleasant topic.

I say work him to death with reps at RT wibut experiment early with him at RG.  See what you see.

Play him through first four games at RT and see how he plays. If he fails at RT yank him out of there.

If he becomes a good guard on another team and Giants never saw that, shame on the Giants.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 24, 2024, 03:55:17 PMFlott is skinny - no two ways about it. And given he has only gained 2-3 pounds in over two years now since the 2022 combine, it's reasonable to assume he's not going to get much bigger (maybe something like 180/182 is possible).

Being slight doesn't preclude him from being a respectable or even good player, but it is clearly not an advantage, either. We should keep in mind that it's not like we took this guy in the top 15 overall though. Mid third round is not typically where you find high-end starting corners. Maybe he's just a solid depth guy. If that's what he ends up being, I'd say that's not a bad outcome at all for a corner taken outside of the top 80 overall.

What I think it affects is his ability to hold onto a jam or press long enough and also in his tackling having less mass.

I am not a fan of all the constant. position switching.

Right.  BFW brings up the average a lot by himself yet he is nowhere near being a productive player on the team — at least not yet.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on May 24, 2024, 01:30:50 PMAm I crazy or is 180 not really small for a CB?

It's his weight for his height.

Big difference to me being a WR at 6'1" 177 vs a CB at that size.  WR receives violent hits but has tools such as ducking, twisting, going down to avoid sometimes the worst.

A CB has to initiate violence which means more direct straighline attack so his reduced mass is more of an issue.

I am not sure how I feel about what he said.  What is there to teach Andrew Thomas?  Line him up at LT and get him reps.

Why bounce people around so much now?  Give them 1 position to become an expert then teach others later.

Belton has always seemed ill-suited to play any type of free safety role.  He played the Cash (hybrid LB/SS) role in college.  I see him and Pinnock as more similar players therefore I believe Nubin will eventually replace Belton.

Why do teams switch players to different sides just to see?  Why dont they simply ask the player "what is your best side for comfort and effectiveness then play them there?

If they can be a lot more effective throwing downfield, I won't care if it's because Jim is calling plays from heaven or Todge is from his living room

I wonder if he played with some kind of ankle injury which made him ineffective to move/drive off his feet.  Maybe Dabs sees him as healthy and ready to play better.  Only thing I can inagine.

Quote from: kingm56 on May 23, 2024, 02:56:54 AMSounds very similar to the reports from those who attended camp last season; for myself, I have never been worried about DJ's arm, or legs.  My primary concern has always been with his ability to process plays, anticipate throws, and deliver the ball through tight windows.  Having said that, I am happy he's healthy and able to showcase his skills. I am confident that DJ will work to be ready for the season; nobody should ever question
his work ethic!   

Funny part is I think he can fit it in tight windows but I'll bet he does not think he can hence one of his major oroblems.

Quote from: madbadger on May 22, 2024, 06:23:53 PMAgain, at what point did you look at him and say he wasn't strong enough to play corner in the NFL?

I saw instances where his jams at LOS were easily defeated and missed tackles where some bulk might have helped him.

I think he should shut his mouth.