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General Category => NFL Draft, NY Giants style => Topic started by: UKGiantsFan on April 20, 2015, 04:19:10 AM

Title: BBH Draft Preview 2015 - Defensive Ends (4-3 & 3-4)
Post by: UKGiantsFan on April 20, 2015, 04:19:10 AM
The talent available
The Giants have a clear prototype for DE but few top prospects fit their mold this year and they are second tier types with good all-around games rather than the type who can consistently terrorize passers off the edge. That said, a couple of them can rush the passer equally as well from the inside so might appeal in Spagnuolo's defense.

What do I think the Giants should do?
Jason Pierre-Paul returns under the
Title: Re: BBH Draft Preview 2015 - Defensive Ends (4-3 & 3-4)
Post by: MightyGiants on April 20, 2015, 07:39:57 AM
Great report Ceri!   Of course you know I was going to say something about Owagume Odighizuwa.   I think you are putting him in the wrong category.   He's too short to really be 3-4 DE.   He would be an ideal LDE in a 4-3 though.   I want him and if the team gets him I know we would all be happy.  He would improve the run defense and give the generally less athletic RTs fits.
Title: Re: BBH Draft Preview 2015 - Defensive Ends (4-3 & 3-4)
Post by: Bob In PA on April 20, 2015, 09:53:17 AM
Rich: That course in scouting is already paying off.  Bob
Title: Re: BBH Draft Preview 2015 - Defensive Ends (4-3 & 3-4)
Post by: Philosophers on April 20, 2015, 10:47:25 AM
We are completely in sync on Preston Smith as I have said the past month or so how much I think he's Justin Tuck 2.0.  I think he is the absolute prototype for the Giants.
Title: Re: BBH Draft Preview 2015 - Defensive Ends (4-3 & 3-4)
Post by: MightyGiants on April 20, 2015, 10:50:58 AM
Quote from: Philosophers on April 20, 2015, 10:47:25 AM
We are completely in sync on Preston Smith as I have said the past month or so how much I think he's Justin Tuck 2.0.  I think he is the absolute prototype for the Giants.

I will be very very very happy if the Giants go O-line round one and come back in round two with either Preston Smith or OO.   That would be such a great 1-2 punch for this team
Title: Re: BBH Draft Preview 2015 - Defensive Ends (4-3 & 3-4)
Post by: Hadron on April 20, 2015, 01:25:01 PM
Derp. Need to read more carefully. :surrender:

I do like Preston Smith.
Title: Re: BBH Draft Preview 2015 - Defensive Ends (4-3 & 3-4)
Post by: DesG89 on April 21, 2015, 06:50:39 AM
Good read as always Ceri. Just like cam Erving in the guard review we're on the same wavelength regarding Preston Smith. He's on my wish list but I have this nagging feeling he'll be taken late in the 1st considering the lack of tradition 4-3 DEs in the draft this year. Is it safe to assume from their absences that you don't think much of Za'darius Smith and Anthony Chikillo?
Title: Re: BBH Draft Preview 2015 - Defensive Ends (4-3 & 3-4)
Post by: UKGiantsFan on April 21, 2015, 08:15:44 AM
Quote from: DesG89 on April 21, 2015, 06:50:39 AM
Good read as always Ceri. Just like cam Erving in the guard review we're on the same wavelength regarding Preston Smith. He's on my wish list but I have this nagging feeling he'll be taken late in the 1st considering the lack of tradition 4-3 DEs in the draft this year. Is it safe to assume from their absences that you don't think much of Za'darius Smith and Anthony Chikillo?

I also think Smith will be gone. It's one very big reason why I favour going DE first. DE's aren't going to last long as their aren't many of them. Their will be good OL's still available at #40.

As far as Za'darius Smith and Chickillo go, I'm not of the opinion that either will be a starter or that they'll upgrade our pass rush. We have depth, what we're missing is a second two-way player or a speedy outside pass rush specialist.
Title: Re: BBH Draft Preview 2015 - Defensive Ends (4-3 & 3-4)
Post by: MightyGiants on April 21, 2015, 08:19:46 AM
Quote from: UKGiantsFan on April 21, 2015, 08:15:44 AM
Quote from: DesG89 on April 21, 2015, 06:50:39 AM
Good read as always Ceri. Just like cam Erving in the guard review we're on the same wavelength regarding Preston Smith. He's on my wish list but I have this nagging feeling he'll be taken late in the 1st considering the lack of tradition 4-3 DEs in the draft this year. Is it safe to assume from their absences that you don't think much of Za'darius Smith and Anthony Chikillo?

I also think Smith will be gone. It's one very big reason why I favour going DE first. DE's aren't going to last long as their aren't many of them. Their will be good OL's still available at #40.

As far as Za'darius Smith and Chickillo go, I'm not of the opinion that either will be a starter or that they'll upgrade our pass rush. We have depth, what we're missing is a second two-way player or a speedy outside pass rush specialist.

I count over 40 guys being projected as first round or possible first round picks.  I am thinking some of these guys will fall to round two.   I am thinking either Smith or OO or both will be their at 40. 
Title: Re: BBH Draft Preview 2015 - Defensive Ends (4-3 & 3-4)
Post by: Jaime on April 21, 2015, 10:00:48 PM
Finally, hello Arik. :greetings:
Title: Re: BBH Draft Preview 2015 - Defensive Ends (4-3 & 3-4)
Post by: UKGiantsFan on April 22, 2015, 05:18:42 PM
Quote from: Jaime on April 21, 2015, 10:00:48 PM
Finally, hello Arik. :greetings:

Possibly bad news on Arik

http://optimumscouting.com/uncategorized/state-of-the-draft-mariota-titans-options-gregorys-fall-miami-fl-prospects-surprise-1st-rounders-and-more.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=state-of-the-draft-mariota-titans-options-gregorys-fall-miami-fl-prospects-surprise-1st-rounders-and-more&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://optimumscouting.com/uncategorized/state-of-the-draft-mariota-titans-options-gregorys-fall-miami-fl-prospects-surprise-1st-rounders-and-more.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=state-of-the-draft-mariota-titans-options-gregorys-fall-miami-fl-prospects-surprise-1st-rounders-and-more&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

Arik tweeted last weekend he was in Indy. That was Combine medical re-check day so it makes sense now.
Title: Re: BBH Draft Preview 2015 - Defensive Ends (4-3 & 3-4)
Post by: vette5573 on April 27, 2015, 12:45:24 PM
bump