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Title: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: brownelvis54 on May 02, 2023, 04:29:59 PM
Lots of talk on AI and to me it dosent sound good. My first thought is if so many are talking about it...perhaps it too late. Once the cat is out of the bag, you cant put it back.



To visualize a hostile superhuman AI, don't imagine a lifeless book-smart thinker dwelling inside the internet and sending ill-intentioned emails. Visualize an entire alien civilization, thinking at millions of times human speeds, initially confined to computers—in a world of creatures that are, from its perspective, very stupid and very slow. A sufficiently intelligent AI won't stay confined to computers for long. In today's world you can email DNA strings to laboratories that will produce proteins on demand, allowing an AI initially confined to the internet to build artificial life forms or bootstrap straight to postbiological molecular manufacturing.




https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1330039/pg1




AND


https://news.yahoo.com/godfather-ai-warns-bad-actors-183332773.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: brownelvis54 on May 02, 2023, 05:02:07 PM
https://youtu.be/CqSoKUapxLM



AND



https://youtu.be/WLehkWESDJ8
Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: Ed Vette on May 02, 2023, 05:53:20 PM
Just need oversight and parameters.
Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: brownelvis54 on May 02, 2023, 08:38:40 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on May 02, 2023, 05:53:20 PMJust need oversight and parameters.


Ed if you read some of the articles or watch the video...your idea is discussed. Here in the USA you have various companies trying to out do each other and racing to get this stuff out. Add the fact that this is happening globally. How do you enforce regulations, parameters and who does the oversighting? Just type in " AI Chat" on the app store on your cell phone...there are several of them already. And that's small potatoes compared to what is being down on a larger scale all around the world
Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: Ed Vette on May 03, 2023, 09:00:46 AM
Quote from: brownelvis54 on May 02, 2023, 08:38:40 PMEd if you read some of the articles or watch the video...your idea is discussed. Here in the USA you have various companies trying to out do each other and racing to get this stuff out. Add the fact that this is happening globally. How do you enforce regulations, parameters and who does the oversighting? Just type in " AI Chat" on the app store on your cell phone...there are several of them already. And that's small potatoes compared to what is being down on a larger scale all around the world

https://open.spotify.com/episode/41RxLAMSdaAd97OAFEpG3H?
Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: Ed Vette on May 03, 2023, 09:07:54 AM
Quote from: brownelvis54 on May 02, 2023, 08:38:40 PMEd if you read some of the articles or watch the video...your idea is discussed. Here in the USA you have various companies trying to out do each other and racing to get this stuff out. Add the fact that this is happening globally. How do you enforce regulations, parameters and who does the oversighting? Just type in " AI Chat" on the app store on your cell phone...there are several of them already. And that's small potatoes compared to what is being down on a larger scale all around the world
https://youtu.be/oO8w6XcXJUs
Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: brownelvis54 on May 03, 2023, 10:57:16 PM
Ed.... I really enjoyed that clip on Elon musk.... I only wish it talk more about AI. I would love to have asked them. How do you regulate on a global scale? 

Michio Kaku is one of my favorite physicist. I can't wait to listen to that.
Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: Ed Vette on May 04, 2023, 07:05:47 AM
Quote from: brownelvis54 on May 03, 2023, 10:57:16 PMEd.... I really enjoyed that clip on Elon musk.... I only wish it talk more about AI. I would love to have asked them. How do you regulate on a global scale? 

Michio Kaku is one of my favorite physicist. I can't wait to listen to that.
I highly recommend the podcast. So much was discussed about quantum computers and AI.
Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: brownelvis54 on May 04, 2023, 06:54:18 PM
You can forward to about 25:00 to hear about AI....honestly the whole video is very interesting



https://youtu.be/aokwKFzbt2Y
Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: MightyGiants on May 05, 2023, 10:39:48 AM
There are always going to be people who are afraid of new technology.  Look at the last line of this sign I saw in an old house.

For those who can't make out the last line, it says- "The use of Electricity for lighting is in no way harmful to health, nor does it affect the soundness of sleep"
Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: BluesCruz on May 15, 2023, 12:23:21 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on May 02, 2023, 05:53:20 PMJust need oversight and parameters.

thats the whole point of super intelligence

it will anticipate any attempt you make to block it or shut it down......it will be 47 million moves ahead of your every effort

what they are attempting to do is "train it" using teams of humans to invoke good dog bad dog instructions to every inquiry response,,,,,,very naive if you ask me

our best hope is its goals align with ours, again doubtful as we constantly war with each other and cannot agree upon anything beyond Pamela Anderson and Ariana Grande are beautiful.

The other thing emerging is the USA is losing its grip on the planet.  In the new world order, China no doubt will be the big dog on the block.  See the Youtube videos on the subject by Ray Diallo of Bridgewater Investments.

Defaulting on our debt, if we do, will accelerate changes very very fast.

Diallo predicted the coming of the "Strongmen" running the world. We see that now...  Super Intelligence will quickly brush them aside.

Im confident at 76 I wont live to see the coming monster changes, or perhaps it will accelerate and I will

I can feel the tremors now.  Basically all my life the USA has been in charge and all has been predictable, the only robot of consequence has been the helpful tool the Iphone- now what?

Musk is sounding the alarm bells and at the same time plans to build billions of Huminoid Slave Robots- Gee thanks for the warning Elon
Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: Ed Vette on May 16, 2023, 07:57:13 AM
Quote from: BluesCruz on May 15, 2023, 12:23:21 PMthats the whole point of super intelligence

it will anticipate any attempt you make to block it or shut it down......it will be 47 million moves ahead of your every effort

what they are attempting to do is "train it" using teams of humans to invoke good dog bad dog instructions to every inquiry response,,,,,,very naive if you ask me

our best hope is its goals align with ours, again doubtful as we constantly war with each other and cannot agree upon anything beyond Pamela Anderson and Ariana Grande are beautiful.

The other thing emerging is the USA is losing its grip on the planet.  In the new world order, China no doubt will be the big dog on the block.  See the Youtube videos on the subject by Ray Diallo of Bridgewater Investments.

Defaulting on our debt, if we do, will accelerate changes very very fast.

Diallo predicted the coming of the "Strongmen" running the world. We see that now...  Super Intelligence will quickly brush them aside.

Im confident at 76 I wont live to see the coming monster changes, or perhaps it will accelerate and I will

I can feel the tremors now.  Basically all my life the USA has been in charge and all has been predictable, the only robot of consequence has been the helpful tool the Iphone- now what?

Musk is sounding the alarm bells and at the same time plans to build billions of Huminoid Slave Robots- Gee thanks for the warning Elon
That would require AI to develop into sentient self aware beings with emotion. It would require a self sustainable power source.

Quantum Computing developed over the next decade is going to be a game changer for technology and it's going to eventually propel us into huge strides in medicine, energy and all fields. Once we as a civilization develop technology to the point where we can reverse and master gravity, it opens us up the the vastness of the universe where there will be unlimited abundance. It will end all wars and it will eliminate religion that controls us.

The greatest intelligence of all is what created all and the eventuality we will be extending life and the development of the human brain and central nervous system. Some day incorporating us long with Android bodies. The next thousand years is going to be the greatest leap forward as long as we do not face a cataclysmic event that resets us back to Hunter-Gatherers similar to what happened 12800 year's ago during the Younger Dryas.
Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: Ed Vette on May 16, 2023, 08:21:58 AM
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-openai-ceo-sam-altman-testifies-before-senate-judiciary-committee
Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: MightyGiants on May 17, 2023, 08:34:53 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwTGHR1acAAgS3O?format=jpg&name=large)


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Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: Ed Vette on May 17, 2023, 08:50:20 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/16/technology/openai-altman-artificial-intelligence-regulation.html?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/16/technology/openai-altman-artificial-intelligence-regulation.html?smid=url-share
Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: Ed Vette on May 22, 2023, 12:03:17 PM
In this short clip Michio Kaku explains the different between AI and Quantum Computimg. AI Chatbot can not tell the difference between true and false statements as it plagurizes content from the Web to answer a question. It's a software program, where Quantum Computimg is a hardware program at calculated at the atomic level. The two together have the potential to jump us huge gains in technology, science and medicine.

https://youtu.be/cqefo5DwA2I
Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: MightyGiants on June 22, 2023, 12:18:23 PM
Zoom has an app called Twine.  It is an AI note-taker for meetings.  I played around with it on a meeting.  While the notes weren't perfect, they were pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: Ed Vette on June 22, 2023, 02:38:08 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on June 22, 2023, 12:18:23 PMZoom has an app called Twine.  It is an AI note-taker for meetings.  I played around with it on a meeting.  While the notes weren't perfect, they were pretty impressive.
Was it user-friendly? Link?
Title: Re: Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down
Post by: MightyGiants on June 22, 2023, 02:40:27 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on June 22, 2023, 02:38:08 PMWas it user-friendly? Link?

If you are on the Zoom app, it's among the app icons on the right side of your screen. It's called Twine. I didn't find it too difficult to use.  As I said, I was impressed; it didn't just record or sum up; it reorganized the meeting into sections like action items based on what was said.