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Have fun tonight gentleman. Don't think I'll be able to stay up. Probably will be ugly, so just shake your head in laughter
Jets have a ton of injuries and they're doing a great job of hanging in there against the Eagles.
The Jets are light years more talented than we are right now. Sad.
It's one reason only - jets can generate pressure on the QB. This is what we don't have
And there it is. Pressure is key. It's why we won 2 Superbowls
Pugh is starting
I'd love to see him with Schmitz and Thomas
Lest go BIG BLUE
Thank You JETS!!!
https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1713707737559777622?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
Well if he wanted to sign for big $$ he should've gotten himself into better shape. He's gonna say he can only play a certain amount of snaps??
I'm all for Pugh. Think he will help solidify and nurture a young group. Our oline is not as bad as people say simply because a line doesn't fall apart overnight and last season they were decent. Injured players have hurt.
I look forward to Pugh being a huge help.
Let's get this party started!
:boldblue: :dance: :Chestram: :goteam: :Giants: :Giants: :Giants:
Please tackle!
Don't let. 4 yard in route turn into a 30 yard completion.
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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on October 15, 2023, 08:13:19 PMPlease tackle!
Don't let. 4 yard in route turn into a 30 yard completion.
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Couldn't agree more!...you are right. Need to tackle like your job depends on it.
I just want a competitive performance. Next 5 out of 6 weeks are winnable. Play well tonight and build up some momentum and we might just get hot... 8))
Barkley auditioning for rhe Bills? They need a running back with impact..no doubt.
Any........given........Sunday.
Just send Brown to the locker room already.
I just don't see the push from our Dline that I see from jets
Nice job by our corners on that series.
Yay!
Justin Pugh - "Straight off the couch"
About sums up our O-line
Impressive opening drive.
Full T formation, two tight ends? What is this, the 1941 Chicago Bears with Sid Luckman?
Next series you'll see the flying wedge.
3rd and short and they just surrender. Why are TEs on the roster?
Again, no push up front
More pressure without success.
Whatever magic Kafka had going on last year has been completely exposed by the defenses and he doesn't seem to be able to make the significant changes to get this O rolling.
Thibs dropping back into coverage looks lost. What a waste of talent
Welcome back McFadden. He's get the a low PFF score but keep making key tackles. FWIW
Edit: posted this before his fumble recover. PFF will think it was just luck.
Okerekeeeee!!!!
Let's see some Hyatt
Don't wanna see any Saquon shuffle feet dancing either. Hit the hole!
They need to stretch the D out here. Just pounding Saquon into this scrum of a front seven for one yard all night isn't going to work.
No. Just run it nowhere..don't make Bills fans sweat out the booze.
I'll say it again - our designed run plays are simply vanilla and need ALOT of work. It's all telegraphed
Nice!
Yay!
Nice throw Tyrod
Great job by Taylor to process quickly and look downfield there before delivering a very nice throw.
Jones would not have hit that, great throw
Nice pass from Taylor to Slayton!
Another O-line injury. Just what we needed
Uh Oh
Geezus Christ
Pugh to tackle, Glow back at guard ?
Pugh to LT?
When the players for the Giants get introduced .should they say ICU? :surrender:
Then who replaced Glow? Lemieux?
Why are they running the ball to the left?
Our O line is getting a bit Spinal Tap drummer.
Barkley is bringing nothing to the table here.
Barkley looks slow and hesitant
Saquon's gonna have a long night with this OL.
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 08:48:43 PMBarkley looks slow and hesitant
Do you see the O-line he has to deal with ? and they keep running him to the dead side
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 15, 2023, 08:48:36 PMBarkley is bringing nothing to the table here.
He's getting met in the backfield on every play. Where is he supposed to go?
Ezuedu got hurt not touching anybody. Shades of Giancarlo Stanton.
Quote from: killarich on October 15, 2023, 08:49:55 PMDo you see the O-line he has to deal with ? and they keep running him to the dead side
I guess so. But I also saw Brieda hit the hole for 5-7 yards and he looked good doing it
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 08:50:56 PMI guess so. But I also saw Brieda hit the hole for 5-7 yards and he looked good doing it
Thats the kind of run plays they need to run for Barkley.... not on the left side
Great play by TT to get the ball out.
Quote from: killarich on October 15, 2023, 08:49:55 PMDo you see the O-line he has to deal with ? and they keep running him to the dead side
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Quote from: jgrangers2 on October 15, 2023, 08:50:16 PMHe's getting met in the backfield on every play. Where is he supposed to go?
Care to explain why Brieda looked so good on his run?
3-0. Makeshift line. Backup QB. Hobbled Barkley. I'll take it
A good team finds a way to 6. Giants get 3.
Yay!
WE HAVE THE LEAD!!! #:-S
https://x.com/Dan_Salomone/status/1713719578293919861?s=20
No shut out tonight baby...wooo!!
If someone had said to me in the off-season that week 6 we'd have Justin Pugh playing LT, I'd have laughed in their face.
Quote from: killarich on October 15, 2023, 08:51:36 PMThats the kind of run plays they need to run for Barkley.... not on the left side
I am not well enough versed in RB stuff so I'll take your word for it and learn from what you are saying.
What I will say is Saquon looks to the naked eye a bit slow (he's hurt) and a bit hesitant (that's concerning)....and my bigger issue is our running play design are telegraphed. I am sitting here anticipating and seeing a run play before it happens
first time all year with a first quarter lead?
We actually have a lead! We've only had one for 19 seconds all year, hope we can at least double it.
Irony - if you told us in 2013 that Justin Pugh would be playing LT for us in 2023 we'd have taken it without question and assumed the draft pick was a success. Funny how things work.
If Ezudu has a hurt toe I'd like to see him try to return. I'm not a dr but we need him
again, no pass rush
Wow our Dline is not what it was. Easy run up the guy. Shame on Dex and Leonard
Now Jackson, this is getting ludicrous
And now we can't trade Adoree Jackson
A TOE?!!
Ronnie Lott once had his pinkie finger amputated so he could play in a game!
Tape it up and roll him back out there!
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Quote from: AYM on October 15, 2023, 08:58:05 PMAnd now we can't trade Adoree Jackson
Nightmare if it's serious... for this reason.
Bills blowing right down the field. Our defense has no spine.
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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on October 15, 2023, 08:58:23 PMA TOE?!!
Ronnie Lott once had his pinkie finger amputated so he could play in a game!
Tape it up and roll him back out there!
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A toe injuries once sidelined one of the toughest SOB to play for the Giants: Mark Bavaro.
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on October 15, 2023, 08:59:04 PMBills blowing right down the field. Our defense has no spine.
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I'm over Wink Martindale's scheme. It doesn't work anymore.
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on October 15, 2023, 08:58:23 PMA TOE?!!
Ronnie Lott once had his pinkie finger amputated so he could play in a game!
Tape it up and roll him back out there!
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Andrew. .
RememberJack Youngblood of the RAMS playing with a broken leg?
I'd like to see Thibs make a play
I know that injuries occur frequently in this game, but maybe the training staff isn't doing all it can do from a preventive standpoint. Not being a smart ass, but the number of injuries this team has suffered makes one wonder.
Man I wish Azeez wasnt made of glass.... we need that extra pass rusher
Quote from: killarich on October 15, 2023, 09:01:59 PMMan I wish Azeez wasnt made of glass.... we need that extra pass rusher
Send Azeez packing.
The D seems more prepared tonight. Flott looks great.
Defense made a nice stop there
Quote from: Blue Since '62 on October 15, 2023, 09:01:11 PMI know that injuries occur frequently in this game, but maybe the training staff isn't doing all it can do from a preventive standpoint. Not being a smart ass, but the number of injuries this team has suffered makes one wonder.
I have been wondering that for several years now
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Give Pugh a Tight End, yeah?
What play worked so far?....do IT again!
Quote from: killarich on October 15, 2023, 09:01:59 PMMan I wish Azeez wasnt made of glass.... we need that extra pass rusher
"Extra" pass rusher?
How about A pass rusher?
The first possession of the season with the lead coming up.
Barkley studder step shuffle. He amazes me
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 15, 2023, 09:03:41 PM"Extra" pass rusher?
How about A pass rusher?
I have been critical of Thibs , but the man does have four sacks.. were they impressive idk.. but he has 4 in 5 games
We need more help
Quote from: killarich on October 15, 2023, 09:04:45 PMI have been critical of Thibs , but the man does have four sacks.. were they impressive idk.. but he has 4 in 5 games
We need more help
Fair enough; agreed.
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 09:04:23 PMBarkley studder step shuffle. He amazes me
Frustrating as ever.
Quote from: spiderblue43 on October 15, 2023, 09:00:49 PMAndrew. .
RememberJack Youngblood of the RAMS playing with a broken leg?
Quote from: spiderblue43 on October 15, 2023, 09:00:49 PMAndrew. .
RememberJack Youngblood of the RAMS playing with a broken leg?
Spider, Jack Youngblood played two and a half GAMES, including the Super Bowl, with a broken leg.
Daboll seems afraid to let Taylor pass.
Let Taylor throw the ball
If Pugh is playing out of position then why aren't we giving him help with a TE?????
Fire this oline coach now!
Quote from: TDToomer on October 15, 2023, 09:05:47 PMDaboll seems afraid to let Taylor pass.
This is our O-line. I'd be afraid to let anyone drop back right now.
https://twitter.com/DanSchneierNFL/status/1713721108631863616
Pugh was in mid thought before he realized the play was happening
Pass blocking is awful ....again.
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Gonna need to put a real TE over Pugh side; can't leave the LT uncovered.
Who was it that was saying Pugh was going to be a difference maker? LOL
Quote from: killarich on October 15, 2023, 09:04:45 PMI have been critical of Thibs , but the man does have four sacks.. were they impressive idk.. but he has 4 in 5 games
We need more help
He needs to do it when it counts. Some of those were as the okay was winding down.
Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 15, 2023, 09:07:42 PMWho was it that was saying Pugh was going to be a difference maker? LOL
I SAID lit Stringer!...he is playing out of position so give him a break
And if u heard the commentators he was making a difference early on when he was at Guard (his position)!!!!!!
Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 15, 2023, 09:07:42 PMWho was it that was saying Pugh was going to be a difference maker? LOL
I dont think they were saying that as if he would be playing LT the most important position on the O-line
Great punt.
Quote from: killarich on October 15, 2023, 09:06:03 PMLet Taylor throw the ball
I'm sure we'd all love that option.....no-one more than Daboll.
Pugh cannot play LT. Doesn't even try to do a pass set. Just chases right away.
Why not swap Pugh and NEal?
The Turstile Team at work.. ,(The Stinko Cinco for our Spanish speakers).
Quote from: TDToomer on October 15, 2023, 09:09:54 PMWhy not swap Pugh and NEal?
Im not so sure thats a good idea lol
Does Josh Allen's old OC know how to shut him down?
Wink finally bringing the heat 2022 style
WTF was Diggs doing there?
Quote from: killarich on October 15, 2023, 09:01:59 PMMan I wish Azeez wasnt made of glass.... we need that extra pass rusher
Time to move on from
Quote from: killarich on October 15, 2023, 09:01:59 PMMan I wish Azeez wasnt made of glass.... we need that extra pass rusher
Time to move on from Ojulari, Rich. He's never been healthy, even at Georgia. Not going to improve.
More great play by McFadden. The PFF will knock his score for missing the sack though.
Pay attention to Diggs now lol... hes ready to book it lol
Holding on a punt. That is unacceptable
". " Tough.....Dependable
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 09:06:30 PMIf Pugh is playing out of position then why aren't we giving him help with a TE?????
Fire this oline coach now!
Wouldnt not using a TE to chip be the OCs call?
Defense stepping up I will admit
Banks I think will eventually be a player ....I feel like hes always on the guy but kind of gets lost when the ball is in the air... he improves that and he will be good
This is pretty heroic from the D, but they'll run out of gas by mid Q3, McDermott knows that.
Need to try Brieda or Gray. Barkley is not at 100% and not helping us
Don't care how bad Pugh plays tonight his straight off the couch intro was worth it.
Hyatt!
FFS Neal
This is the best our D has looked all season. Bank with a great coverage.
Neal wTF u doing?
God dammit ! that was a catch too
That was a xxxxxxxx call by the refs what else is new?
Why is that a penalty? Some of these rules need to go.
Great, shouldn't of been a flag.
fken refs
Pugh having a tough time out there
Refs pissed me off man
2 penalties, 2 sacks allowed for Pugh. He fits right in.
Need to open it up
YTF do we love to run those plays on 3rd down !! WTF KAFKA !
Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 15, 2023, 09:19:20 PM2 penalties, 2 sacks allowed for Pugh. He fits right in.
U gotta be kidding me
Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 15, 2023, 09:19:20 PM2 penalties, 2 sacks allowed for Pugh. He fits right in.
Give him a break. He's straight off the couch
Refs stink but can't blame them for poor o line play
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Ezudu needs to come back in the 2nd half.
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Quote from: bighitterdalama on October 15, 2023, 09:18:49 PMPugh having a tough time out there
First game back after tearing an ACL and he's forced to play a position he hasn't played in almost a decade. He gets a pass on that from me.
Quote from: Woody on October 15, 2023, 09:19:57 PMRefs stink but can't blame them for poor o line play
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Guy is on team for a week and out of position
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on October 15, 2023, 09:20:35 PMEzudu needs to come back in the 2nd half.
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On Crutches?
TACKLE THE BALL CARRIER!!!
They're letting him run right buy them in all that traffic!!
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Giants have the honor of having the worst offensive and defensive lines in the NFL....
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Come on defense , dont go soft again
Thibs being handled EASY guys
https://x.com/NYPost_Schwartz/status/1713727000156721558?s=20
Sexy Dexy ain't earning his big pay raise.....
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Okereke has been worth his contract imo
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 09:22:42 PMThibs being handled EASY guys
His is every week
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Defense is playing its ass off. Too bad the offense can't get out of its own way.
More solid D! I could settle for a final score in the single digits.
Bass went full Scott Norwood!
Taylor, Barkley, offense... lets get a TD here ...please football gods
Wide Right
Quote from: Woody on October 15, 2023, 09:23:36 PMHis is every week
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He needs to become a Balco customer.
Quote from: Woody on October 15, 2023, 09:23:14 PMSexy Dexy ain't earning his big pay raise.....
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He's the only/few good thing about this team
Watched a lot of games today at sports bar.....Thibs does not give the effort or have the strength of many d ends in league.
He gets handles way too often by a tight end or just one lineman.
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Quote from: bighitterdalama on October 15, 2023, 09:11:43 PMTime to move on from
Time to move on from Ojulari, Rich. He's never been healthy, even at Georgia. Not going to improve.
Some players can't handle it...remember George Adams? Eric Dorsey? Gordon King?
Thibs criticism is a little over the top if you ask me
If azeez wasnt made of glass .... and our supposed D-line actually got a push I think he would seem a lot more productive
All these excuses for Pugh. Was exactly the reason I said he's worthless to waste money on.
He's old. He's coming off injury. And his best days are long since past. And that's exactly how he's playing.
He gets no breaks from me. Next man up. And this man stinks.
Man Ezeudu not coming back in the 2nd half?
There we go
Wandale (Who I was a big critic) and Hyatt are the future... play those guys like crazy Dabs !
The only guy not bitching about the O line tonight is the Giants' QB.
Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 15, 2023, 09:27:13 PMAll these excuses for Pugh. Was exactly the reason I said he's worthless to waste money on.
He's old. He's coming off injury. And his best days are long since past. And that's exactly how he's playing.
He gets no breaks from me. Next man up. And this man stinks.
Thanks for your input. We will revisit this after Thomas and Schmitz return.
Barkley dances goes nowhere!
Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 15, 2023, 09:27:13 PMAll these excuses for Pugh. Was exactly the reason I said he's worthless to waste money on.
He's old. He's coming off injury. And his best days are long since past. And that's exactly how he's playing.
He gets no breaks from me. Next man up. And this man stinks.
Yeah, we should've signed one of those more effective street free agent O lineman that fit under our cap number.
They were so many to choose from.
Taylor is looking good out there
Barkley is definitely not 100% healthy.
Barkley run the play the way it's designed!
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Put Breida back in please
Barkley my goodness
Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 15, 2023, 09:27:13 PMAll these excuses for Pugh. Was exactly the reason I said he's worthless to waste money on.
He's old. He's coming off injury. And his best days are long since past. And that's exactly how he's playing.
He gets no breaks from me. Next man up. And this man stinks.
He makes league minimum. It's him or PS players.
Why does Barkley stop running?
He looks like 2021 Barkley tonight. It's not just the O line.
Another week....more flags!
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How do you have a play clock issue coming out of a timeout?
Damn Penalties man
Quote from: TDToomer on October 15, 2023, 09:30:43 PMHe makes league minimum. It's him or PS players.
Would much rather have a PS player. At least there's youth and upside. And it's not like they could play worse than Pugh.
Lot of guys slipping on that field
Tyrod making anticipatory throws? Wow
Shame it was a tad off
AHhhhh bad pass Taylor..... first bad pass... ill give him a pass... but man i wanted a TD this drive
Tyrod had a pocket on that 3rd down but went to WanDale. Don't like it at all
Yay!
Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 15, 2023, 09:33:19 PMWould much rather have a PS player. At least there's youth and upside. And it's not like they could play worse than Pugh.
How did that work out last weekend?
Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 15, 2023, 09:33:19 PMWould much rather have a PS player. At least there's youth and upside. And it's not like they could play worse than Pugh.
There's a lot to be said for experience. Can't put a price on that. Those PS players definitely wouldn't have that.
Definitely a poor couple of plays for Taylor.
Can we now start to see that this dinks and dunks are playcalling ? At least a good portion of it
Taylor is doing the same ish .... Dabs take the damn playbook from Kafka !
Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 15, 2023, 09:33:19 PMWould much rather have a PS player. At least there's youth and upside. And it's not like they could play worse than Pugh.
Pugh did fine that last series. Maybe u should take a breath
Quote from: TDToomer on October 15, 2023, 09:34:41 PMHow did that work out last weekend?
The same it's working with Pugh.
Enough back and forth. Stick to the game and not each other.
If defense can stop them or at worst hold them to a FG that is a good outcome at this point
Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 15, 2023, 09:36:38 PMThe same it's working with Pugh.
Seems like you have some beef with Pugh from his final season before leaving. If it was another player signed off the street would you be killing him? I doubt it
Defense is starting to get pressure
Tyrod is 8-12 for 81 yards with a guy off the couch at LT. He makes 5 million dollars.
There should be no comparison
MVP so far is Wink for getting this D prepared to play.
RTP
Offsetting penalties
Come on man , league is soft
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Another xxxxxxxx call by the freaking refs
bs refs
BS call
Embarrassing that that gets called a PF
If that's roughing the passer, we're as well stopping the game and playing flag football.
Total BS
Put flags on the QBs
We were getting the illegal hands call anyway but what an absolutely horrendous RTP call
Are you serious ? Its even worse now looking at the replay
What a complete joke. This is no longer football.
horseshit call
Quote from: jgrangers2 on October 15, 2023, 09:41:49 PMWe were getting the illegal hands call anyway but what an absolutely horrendous RTP call
Extra 10 yards though ...bs call smh
This is a weird game.
It was a bs call; however, there was also a legit hands to the face, which is also an automatic first down.
Needed to stop the run on those plays without Allen.
Whale of a game by Okereke so far.
Defense shouldve had that push on the 1st and 2nd down runs... with Allen out you knew they were going to run the ball
This doesn't look good.
Damn the Bills fanbase must hate this
Looked like clean hit and he was moving legs as he went down
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Strange. The replay of the hit didn't seem bad at all. Looked like a very routine play. Maybe I missed something.
The referee should demand the facts..not just say what??? Replay should be involved. Too many of these interpretations are wrong..ask the Niners today
Refs treat top teams differently it's as simple as that. And it's a fact
There was no hit to the head.There was contact to the upper chest/shoulder area.
Quote from: spiderblue43 on October 15, 2023, 09:48:18 PMThe referee should demand the facts..not just say what??? Replay should be involved. Too many of these interpretations are wrong..ask the Niners today
Not to mention it's absurd when a ref 1000 feet away throws the flag when the closest officials don't.
Oh, nothing wrong with the hit.
Always worrying though, good to see him doing thumbs up.
Well now......
Interception!
woo hoo!
McFadden again with a great play - always around the ball. PFF will destroy him tomorrow though
Quote from: TDToomer on October 15, 2023, 09:44:09 PMWhale of a game by Okereke so far.
You aren't kidding!
What is Barkley doing?!!!!!
McFadden!!! He must really be pissed at PFF.
Okereke the best player on this defense and Mcfadden has the hustle , Simmons has the speed
Our LB crew may becoming the best unit on the defense as crazy as that sounds
McFadden PFF score could take another hit.. :yes: interception..fumble recovery. Big deal.
WANT a TD, but id take a FG and a 2 score lead into the half
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 09:52:34 PMWhat is Barkley doing?!!!!!
Trying to avoid the offensive lineman who fell in front of him as he was getting the ball
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 09:52:34 PMWhat is Barkley doing?!!!!!
I don't get the point of using him. He's not adding any value whatsoever and they're just risking exacerbation of the injury. Give Breida more snaps. He has been much better when he has had the opportunity. I'd look at Gray too. Barkley should have been scratched. His trade value is declining before our eyes.
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 09:52:34 PMWhat is Barkley doing?!!!!!
He doesn't look right at all.
Barkley looks terrible. Enough. He's obviously still hurt and ineffective.
Quote from: jgrangers2 on October 15, 2023, 09:54:30 PMTrying to avoid the offensive lineman who fell in front of him as he was getting the ball
He is hesitant and slow because he's hurt
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 09:52:34 PMWhat is Barkley doing?!!!!!
Looked crazy but I dont think it was ...he turned a 3 yard loss into a 1 yard gain by doing that crazy leap
Well well well - throw it downfield and look what happens
This turf is slippery ...pissing me off
I hope his neck heals and he is ok, but DJ is in no way $35M better than TT
not even close
Holy Effin Christ
Best run by Barkley today by far.
Giants on pace to throw for 200+, something they rarely do.
Quote from: killarich on October 15, 2023, 09:55:29 PMLooked crazy but I dont think it was ...he turned a 3 yard loss into a 1 yard gain by doing that crazy leap
There was an O-lineman on his back in the backfield as soon as he got the ball. Leaping over him was literally his only option.
Hole shot for what feels like the first time all season.
Tremendous play! Perfect downfield throw by Taylor. Love seeing this downfield passing game!
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 09:56:45 PMWell well well - throw it downfield and look what happens
I've been saying. They HAVE to take throws downfield to keep the defense honest.
Quote from: kingm56 on October 15, 2023, 09:57:20 PMGiants on pace to throw for 200+, something they rarely do.
Amazing what happens when your QB is willing to take some shots down the field
Tyrod making moves
This Daboll just wasted 5 seconds (thinking whether or not to call a timeout)...shades of Joe Judge there!
Quote from: jgrangers2 on October 15, 2023, 09:57:22 PMThere was an O-lineman on his back in the backfield as soon as he got the ball. Leaping over him was literally his only option.
I agree
Tyrod Taylor looking way better than Jones behind a patchwork OL, interesting.......
I don't know how they go back to Jones if Taylor sustains the play throughout the game.
TT gives them a better chance to win every week.
Gotta use Walker's height here.
Pushing tbd ball downfield also yields potential pass interference calls.
Quote from: kingm56 on October 15, 2023, 10:01:18 PMPushing tbd ball downfield also yields potential pass interference calls.
You are a prophet
That's dreadful, f-ing dreadful.
Disgrace by Daboll. Unacceptable
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Wtf
What a complete disaster.
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 10:02:08 PMDisgrace by Daboll. Unacceptable
Nah, that was Tyrod. He audibled.
WTF was that playcall! Throw a pass!!
Is that for real? Wow. Giving away points. Embarrassing.
Barkley also danced. He did not hit it running. Watch the overhead shot. Clear as day. Clear as day!
I'm sure that won't come back to bite them in the ass.
What a stupid friggin decision. All on Dabs/Kafka
And that, my friends is why we're 1-4.
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Daboll having a go at Tyrod, but if he'd been more aggressive earlier we'd have had more time.
Awful.
Only the mother fucking Giants would do something so stupid
100% on coaches...embarrassing :boooo:
Most embarrassing Giants offensive play since the QB sneak on third and long.
Quote from: Philosophers on October 15, 2023, 10:03:33 PMWhat a stupid friggin decision. All on Dabs/Kafka
Tyrod audibled to a run. Bad decision on his part.
Like I said earlier. Daboll wasted (5) SECONDS on the earlier play thinking about WHETHER or not to call timeout!....he was on the tv looking unsure before he finally called timeout!...5 seconds were wasted!!!!!
IDK who was at fault.... but my god that was bad
Typical of the joke this organization is right now.
Quote from: Philosophers on October 15, 2023, 10:03:33 PMWhat a stupid friggin decision. All on Dabs/Kafka
No he had to throw it not use the run option He changed play at the line
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Nice audible by Taylor. If they gave this team a football IQ test they'd all come back as being special needs.
I am pretty much done with Barkley
In 1 play you take away all momentum and totally flip the feeling of the game.
That's on Taylor. There have been alot of stupid play calls both in College and Pros this year.
Not so upset about that as I'd rather them go for 7 as another 3 but get it.
All on Taylor there. He changed to a run play at line of scrimmage
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Bad clock management from the get go is why they come away with nothing. Maybe TT screwed up the last play but Daboll screwed the whole sequence.
That takes so much away from one of the gutsiest halves in a long time.
Quote from: files58 on October 15, 2023, 10:05:03 PMThat's on Taylor. There have been alot of stupid play calls both in College and Pros this year.
It's on Daboll also!...he wasted 5 seconds on the previous series when he called timeout!!!!!
Playing not to lose will always lead to a loss
not getting 3 there is rough.... being up 9-0 is a big difference then 6-0
Taylor has played a half in the past 2+ years, I'll give him a pass. Especially since the coordinator has to communicate that he can't run there with no timeouts available.
You simply rpo that play .basic stuff. Throw it into the stands if not there .bad coaching.what the hell are they doing all the time in training camp?
Kick the 3 ~X( ~X( ~X(
No excuse to not be up 13-0.
When you're the HC of a 1-4 team with playoff expectations and you're at the 1 with 14 seconds left in the half, YOUR JOB IS TO OVERCOMMUNICATE SITUATIONAL FOOTBALL!!
He can yell at Tyrod all he wants about not audibling to a run there. That conversation should've happened during the time-out!
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On the surface, you have to pass the ball in that situation.
On the other hand, I get Taylor deciding "surely Barkley can get a yard" and not expecting Barkley to dance again.
Absolutely inexcusable end of the half. Should have easily had at LEAST 2 cracks in the end zone and if nothing there, Giants are up by 2 scores getting the ball 1st in 2nd half.
Now we will see how tough these guys are. Each game we've lost there has been a moment like this that they just couldn't get past.
Quote from: AYM on October 15, 2023, 10:09:05 PMOn the surface, you have to pass the ball in that situation.
On the other hand, I get Taylor deciding "surely Barkley can get a yard" and not expecting Barkley to dance again.
Why would he expect Barkley to do anything good there when he had clearly been terrible the whole first half and is clearly not healthy?
Moreover, why was Barkley even out there at all?
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on October 15, 2023, 10:08:55 PMWhen you're the HC of a 1-4 team with playoff expectations and you're at the 1 with 14 seconds left in the half, YOUR JOB IS TO OVERCOMMUNICATE SITUATIONAL FOOTBALL!!
He can yell at Tyrod all he wants about not audibling to a run there. That conversation should've happened during the time-out!
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At some point you have to expect that a ten year vet is smart enough to make the right decision. Micromanaging is never a healthy thing.
Quote from: AYM on October 15, 2023, 10:09:05 PMOn the surface, you have to pass the ball in that situation.
On the other hand, I get Taylor deciding "surely Barkley can get a yard" and not expecting Barkley to dance again.
You have got to be kidding. You absolutely do not EVER run the ball in that situation with no timeouts. EVER.
So, what's the consensus here? Giants lose 7-6 on a last minute Buffalo TD? :surprise:
Daboll can scream all he wants. He's the head coach who seems to never know what's going on.
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 10:06:09 PMIt's on Daboll also!...he wasted 5 seconds on the previous series when he called timeout!!!!!
That's right! I wondered why too. Bad clock management Idiotic stuff. The bloom is way off Dabs He is showing cracks all the time
Bad teams do bad xxxx, that's why they suck, and the Gmen suck!
Quote from: Jclayton92 on October 15, 2023, 10:08:32 PMTaylor has played a half in the past 2+ years, I'll give him a pass. Especially since the coordinator has to communicate that he can't run there with no timeouts available.
You absolutely cannot audible to a run with no timeouts. I don't care if he hasn't played in two years. Anyone with half a brain can do that math.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 15, 2023, 10:10:36 PMWhy would he expect Barkley to do anything good there when he had clearly been terrible the whole first half and is clearly not healthy?
Moreover, why was Barkley even out there at all?
Exactly.
If there was ever a question of a run on that play Brieda should have been out there.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 15, 2023, 10:10:36 PMWhy would he expect Barkley to do anything good there when he had clearly been terrible the whole first half and is clearly not healthy?
Moreover, why was Barkley even out there at all?
Might be me but the entire team has a completely different feel with Taylor in the game.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on October 15, 2023, 10:08:32 PMTaylor has played a half in the past 2+ years, I'll give him a pass. Especially since the coordinator has to communicate that he can't run there with no timeouts available.
I don't know. The guy is a 13 year NFL veteran. I've never played organized football and knew you can't run the ball there. Kafka could be in his ear reiterating it, but it shouldn't need to be said.
Quote from: katkavage on October 15, 2023, 10:05:43 PMBad clock management from the get go is why they come away with nothing. Maybe TT screwed up the last play but Daboll screwed the whole sequence.
If Daboll screwed up the whole sequence, they would not have been on the 1 yard line with 14 seconds. Tyrod is a veteran QB. Poor situational awareness on his part.
Really can't fathom how there is any possibility of anything but throws to the endzone in that situation. Probably can get 3 attempts from the 1.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on October 15, 2023, 10:13:06 PMMight be me but the entire team has a completely different feel with Taylor in the game.
To include the Bills. I believe they game planned to stop Saquon and did not expect Tyrod to go deep a few times.
Tyrod is a better QB than Jones, DJ would not be making some of these throws.
Clearly an audible by Taylor
I see Saquon has taught Robinson the hoppy/stutter step move.
Run hard. That simple.
Really looks like Daboll is calling plays by what I see him doing on tv
I cant believe we wasted what ? 3 games playing Lemiuex over Glow
Cager busy not blocking anybody
Quote from: True Blue on October 15, 2023, 10:17:44 PMTyrod is a better QB than Jones, DJ would not be making some of these throws.
He's willing to take these shots downfield where Jones settles too often for the checkdowns
Quote from: jgrangers2 on October 15, 2023, 10:20:09 PMHe's willing to take these shots downfield where Jones settles too often for the checkdowns
100%
WanDale is having a solid game.
points are a MUST on this drive
WTF is the deal with the field?
It's like they're playing on ice.
Gillan has been solid.
not scoring before the half now looks real bad
Quote from: jgrangers2 on October 15, 2023, 10:20:09 PMHe's willing to take these shots downfield where Jones settles too often for the checkdowns
I mean we're up 6-0 is the offense really that much better than it has been all year?!
Defense and specials NEED to keep doing what they're doing if we're going to have a shot here.
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Collingsworth is blaming Tyrod. But I don't care..that is a coaching debacle at best.
If we taken anything positive out of this season it's that we've found two really good young receivers.
Another xxxxxxxx call by the refs
Quote from: madbadger on October 15, 2023, 10:25:21 PMIf we taken anything positive out of this season it's that we've found two really good young receivers.
And a couple of good cbs.
uugghhh
More phantom penalties
Ahhhh Thibs has to make that!
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on October 15, 2023, 10:24:49 PMI mean we're up 6-0 is the offense really that much better than it has been all year?!
Defense and specials NEED to keep doing what they're doing if we're going to have a shot here.
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Not pretending the offense is significantly better. It's limited by the mess we have on the O-line, but Taylor has made some throws that I'm not even sure Jones attempts. The one to Slayton on the last drive is a perfect example.
Thibs sucks. Period
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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on October 15, 2023, 10:24:49 PMI mean we're up 6-0 is the offense really that much better than it has been all year?!
We have been hearing all week that the O line is such a disaster that Taylor wouldn't make it through the game on his own two feet. THEN we lose our left tackle.
So yeah, I'd say he's doing pretty darn well, considering. Our starting RB might as well not even be out there.
For as much money as the giants invest in DT and the MLB, they cannot stop the run...
Quote from: kingm56 on October 15, 2023, 10:28:33 PMFor as much money as the giants invest in DT and the MLB, they cannot stop the run...
Was just thinking the same thing. Are Dex and LW just getting manhandled?
bs.... that end of half debacle was a sign of things... we need a td man
Again! Thibs lost his footing there.
Yeah, many were saying he would get killed behind this OL, no excuses, he is doing great given the circumstances.
He is also not creating extra pressure either.
He is not locking on or resprting to check downs, and making throws Jones would never make.
TT should be the starter he gives them a better chance to win
Quote from: MagicRat on October 15, 2023, 10:27:30 PMAhhhh Thibs has to make that!
See how quickly he got in to the backfield rushing from the inside?
Seems like Thibs was held. Come on refs. Call it even.
Thibs wasn't worth top 5 pick. He's not that good. That's on Schoen
Quote from: spiderblue43 on October 15, 2023, 10:25:11 PMCollingsworth is blaming Tyrod. But I don't care..that is a coaching debacle at best.
No that was all on Taylor and I'm sure he will admit it after the game
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Run defense wtf
Dline sucks. Dex and Len need to stop runs
Quote from: MagicRat on October 15, 2023, 09:14:07 PMThis is pretty heroic from the D, but they'll run out of gas by mid Q3, McDermott knows that.
:boooo:
Interior line getting manhandled.
WTF?
Mckinney you have to keep running at him! why did you hesitate
That was the best push with passion I seen big Dex make all year!
wtf are you guys doing
Sorry but this is a poorly coached team with no discipline or self control.
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Quote from: jgrangers2 on October 15, 2023, 10:27:37 PMNot pretending the offense is significantly better. It's limited by the mess we have on the O-line, but Taylor has made some throws that I'm not even sure Jones attempts. The one to Slayton on the last drive is a perfect example.
Yes a couple of nice throws but he has cost them 6 points as well. 3 at goal line and 3 when dropped ball and took them out of fg range during first drive of second half
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OH HE STEPPED ON THIBS LEGS !! THAT SHOULD BE AN EJECTION !!
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 10:33:01 PMDline sucks. Dex and Len need to stop runs
And yet through nearly three full quarters they given up a grand total of zero points.
Dex to me looks like he lost his cool and was wrong
Quote from: madbadger on October 15, 2023, 10:37:00 PMAnd yet through nearly three full quarters they given up a grand total of zero points.
I'm talking about the big runs all year up the gut
Dawkins is a gobshite.
Quote from: Woody on October 15, 2023, 10:36:20 PMYes a couple of nice throws but he has cost them 6 points as well. 3 at goal line and 3 when dropped ball and took them out of fg range during first drive of second half
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Jones cost them 7 against the Seahawks, and killed many drives, everyone makes mistakes, but TT does not seem to be nearly as impacted by this poor OL
Again right up the middle
This is four down guys. Stand up.
And somehow the Bills are scoreless after three quarters.
Quote from: Woody on October 15, 2023, 10:36:20 PMYes a couple of nice throws but he has cost them 6 points as well. 3 at goal line and 3 when dropped ball and took them out of fg range during first drive of second half
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And?...your point?
OKereke has a mean grip.... he doesnt let go
Adorree back out there is good to see.
Defense came to play.
Pugh has settled down. Deserves credit. Best pass rushing team in NFL and we are in the lead in quarter 4.
I'd say it's a good night
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 10:41:33 PMAnd?...your point?
Point is it could be 9-0
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Or 12 0
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Was Thibs held there?
No holding on Thibs ???? wtf
It looked like Thibs tried to break right into coverage but was held, haven't seen a replay yet.
Bills brilliant play and timing of call. Those kinds of plays are not run by the Giants
This is where not getting at least 3 before the half kills us
McKinney got taken to school on that TD...was watching the motion guy and took eyes off QB and paid the price. Easy TD
Quote from: Woody on October 15, 2023, 10:44:31 PMOr 12 0
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I'm just happy we are able to score and be competitive with Tyrod
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 10:47:48 PMI'm just happy we are able to score and be competitive with Tyrod
Would we even have 6 with a healthy Jones?
Taylor has more poise with this group ..but that isn't a ringing endorsement.
6 points is what it is .but the Giants have played respectfully. .especially on d.
Wow this montage slow motion they just showed of Barkley proves point. He hesitates and dances/shuffles. For as explosive as he is I'm not sure I wanna spend on him.
I want to see throws to Barkley.
need points
I cannot stand the bias on the amount of penalties in NFL
So Campbell should've kneeled
Better
smh
WTF is Cam Brown still on the field???
Nothing good happens with him or Campbell.
Barkley isn't met immediately in the backfield and he looks faster. Who would have thought?
Why is Cam Brown still a Giant
Wattya know he didn't shuffle!
Boom!
Barkley out of nowhere.
Quote from: T200 on October 15, 2023, 10:51:18 PMWTF is Cam Brown still on the field???
Nothing good happens with him or Campbell.
Ironically both were involved in that play
Finally he decides to run through holes!!!
there you go BARKLEY !!!
Glow should have never been benched, thats on coaches
Finally a call
TT had the 1st down anyway.
fken flags .. you cant be serious
Note that all these runs are to the right
Oh nevermind ! Refs were hurting they had to call that ! you see it in his face
Quote from: killarich on October 15, 2023, 10:53:28 PMGlow should have never been benched, thats on coaches
To be fair, he was as tough as wet TP the first couple of weeks. He was sat for being ineffective. Looks like something clicked.
Terrible spot ! Breida got the first down !
Dumb play call
dammit man
Quote from: killarich on October 15, 2023, 10:55:55 PMTerrible spot ! Breida got the first down !
I thought so.
Brieda was not down!...he rolled over a guy!!!!!!!...should be a 1st down
Just keep running the ball.. wtf
Another complete failure.
Quote from: killarich on October 15, 2023, 10:55:55 PMTerrible spot ! Breida got the first down !
I agree
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Bad spot on the Breida run. On top of a body is not down. He got to the 10
Why??? Are you in the shotgun with an inch to go for a 1st DOWN??!!!
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Pretty awesome we have the lead in the 4th quarter! Good stuff!
poor coaching will cost us a win tonight. 4 down territory and we are in the shotgun on 3rd and inches? :surrender:
Our coaching is really bad...
3rd and inches...
:boooo:
Why not challenge the spot?!!!
Again - coaching!
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 10:56:45 PMBrieda was not down!...he rolled over a guy!!!!!!!...should be a 1st down
Refs and nfl missed again. Brieda was rolled to 30. Awful. I seen many bad calls all day
Breida's elbow came down at the 11.
Daboll is clueless...sorry
Daboll is garbage.
We cant let them kill the clock and score again.. would be demoralizing
Quote from: killarich on October 15, 2023, 10:55:55 PMTerrible spot ! Breida got the first down !
Watched a video of a bunch of former NBA players who were in agreement that the league picked the winners in losers in key games through awful officiating. The Bills need this win so is it any surprise that there have been a number of bad calls against the Giants.
losing confidence in this coaching staff, this was a winnable game, turnovers fell our way but we still screwed it up.
wtf he dropped the ball.. these refs are something else
And there go to refs
Defense folds on 3rd down.
bro these refs are full of sh**
Need a turnover here.
You know at the end they will lose by one and we will be sickened by the end of the first half and that stupid 3 and 1 play call.
Call the offensive holding on #60!!!!
This is BS!
FUCKING KAYVON THIBODEAU!!!!
It's amazing how many sins a great quarterback can erase, not that we'd know about it.
TWO FKEN HOLDINGS ON THAT PLAY !!! TWOO!!!!
Defense wearing down now.
Oh look, an elite QB under heavy pressure yet he makes a big play.
Wish we had him in blue, hopefully the defense can prevent a score here
Thibs had better make a play in the 4th
Get a turnover!
As I typed it I see he is easily handled one on one
they are going to milk the clock ...damn
Sometimes I can't figure out what Adoree Jackson is doing in coverage
Go watch that TD play again. Thibs one on one let's up after he's handled!
1-5
we made a game out of it .... smh
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 11:07:52 PMGo watch that TD play again. Thibs one on one let's up after he's handled!
Jesus give it a break already.
Throwing the ball through an impossibly tight window for a TD...something our Giants simply can't do..,
Gentleman, you took Barkley over Allen. He was labeled as being an inaccurate passer. Idiotic scouts.
Again, heavy pressure on the QB, good example of what separates a great QB from a average one
Let's hope we can score in these final minutes for the win
Thibs is a waste. I'm done with him.
A bad team will find every possible way to lose.
Thibs sucks, can't stand the guy and look forward to the day he is cut.
two touchdowns vs three field goals. there's the difference
Quote from: kingm56 on October 15, 2023, 11:08:42 PMThrowing the ball through an impossibly tight window for a TD...something our Giants simply can't do..,
With defenders in his face!! Pressure impacts the QB!!
Blame is on Daboll. 3rd
And inched inside 15yrs line or something and u kick a field goal against Buffalo?...that's a far cry from the guy who last year went for 2 points early in season to make a statement!...
He's afraid to GO win now.
Can anyone explain why the Bills didn't go for 2 there?
Quote from: umassgrad on October 15, 2023, 11:09:04 PMThibs sucks, can't stand the guy and look forward to the day he is cut.
Me
Too!
Quote from: umassgrad on October 15, 2023, 11:09:04 PMThibs sucks, can't stand the guy and look forward to the day he is cut.
Trade him
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Quote from: T200 on October 15, 2023, 11:08:53 PMThibs is a waste. I'm done with him.
I'm not, Tim. I've got his jersey.
Quote from: jgrangers2 on October 15, 2023, 11:10:20 PMCan anyone explain why the Bills didn't go for 2 there?
Odd indeed
This loss will be on the coaches. Poor clock management, poor play calling, just a poor coaching effort
Quote from: jgrangers2 on October 15, 2023, 11:10:20 PMCan anyone explain why the Bills didn't go for 2 there?
Because they think our offense cant get a TD
Quote from: bighitterdalama on October 15, 2023, 11:11:09 PMI'm not, Tim. I've got his jersey.
Damn. Bad investment! :laugh:
Those 3 points before the half...the stupid call on 3rd and inches
Forget the officiating...
If we lose, it will be due to our own poor decision-making...
Five lead against a six lead....don't make a lot of difference.
Can't trade Thibs because no one would want him
Only shot is a deep
Prayer to Hyatt to break one at this point
Watching Thibs on that replay is revolting - he gives up
Quote from: HondurasGiants on October 15, 2023, 11:12:24 PMThose 3 points before the half...the stupid call on 3rd and inches
Forget the officiating...
If we lose, it will be due to our own poor decision-making...
Again that was on Taylor not coaches
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Pinnock late getting over on the TD
Quote from: Woody on October 15, 2023, 11:13:49 PMAgain that was on Taylor not coaches
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It's on Daboll wasting a ton of time and leaving the Giants none.
Quote from: BigBlueFanInFla on October 15, 2023, 11:11:29 PMThis loss will be on the coaches. Poor clock management, poor play calling, just a poor coaching effort
College football it's coaching, in the NFL it's talent. We don't have talent at the most important position. You flip Allen and Taylor and we win this game by three touchdowns. Now amount of scheming and clock management can compensate for having garbage quarterbacks and a bad offensive line.
terrible play call
Nice conversion. Need the playmakers to step up.
This game is a good example of how DJ is not the guy
Between Taylor looking better and more poised, and Josh Allen making big, critical plays under heavy pressure, both show how DJ hurts this team more than he helps them
Quote from: Messiah717 on October 15, 2023, 11:14:53 PMIt's on Daboll wasting a ton of time and leaving the Giants none.
They had the ball at the 1 yard line with 14 seconds left. You can easily get 2-3 shots at the end zone there. They had plenty of time.
Nice first down keep it moving
Wow, totally inept play calling.
Taylor throwing balls to allow for YAC, which was quickly wasted by a terrible run call the next play.
Why run that play before 2 minute warning?...it was rushed and it's not gonna work anymore as Collinsworh just pointed out!
That was a bad play call.
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stupid fken playcalls
Quote from: Messiah717 on October 15, 2023, 11:14:53 PMIt's on Daboll wasting a ton of time and leaving the Giants none.
It can be both.
This is the difference in coaching: Barkley had those two big runs to the right with the guard pulling. Bills DC made an adjustment to stop it. Dab/Ka keeps calling it instead of switching it up.
Daboll looking like Joe Judge tonight.
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 11:16:52 PMWhy run that play before 2 minute warning?...it was rushed and it's not gonna work anymore as Collinsworh just pointed out!
If you're going to run the ball, than you wanna run it right before the two minute warning so you don't have to burn a time out to stop the clock
Quote from: jgrangers2 on October 15, 2023, 11:16:03 PMThey had the ball at the 1 yard line with 14 seconds left. You can easily get 2-3 shots at the end zone there. They had plenty of time.
But had they had longer than 14 seconds tgebrun us an option, Taylor saw the option and called it, had Barkley gone harder he gets in.
There's plenty blame to go round on that shitshow.
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 11:16:52 PMWhy run that play before 2 minute warning?...it was rushed and it's not gonna work anymore as Collinsworh just pointed out!
Again...bad decision-making
Daboll still learning to manage a game and make decisions...
Maybe he's nervous or stressed because he's back im Buffalo...jeez
So many head-scratching decisions today...
Truly poor
No penalty on Hyatt?
This is the most frustrating loss of the year .if..they do. Had a real shot here knowing the Bills but played like losing close was okay Daboll takes another hit
Pass interference ??!!!
Quote from: kingm56 on October 15, 2023, 11:18:36 PMIf you're going to run the ball, than you wanna run it right before the two minute warning so you don't have to burn a time out to stop the clock
But no reason to run it before the 2 minute warning
By NFL rule that was a roughing the passer penalty. He left his feet and hit Taylor high so it makes perfect sense that they wouldn't call it.
Why throw deep .then go for it with three tos? Wtf,
Madbagger, are you trying to tell me that on 3rd and inches and we go with shotgun after running the ball down their throat that's a talent issue??
That's ridiculous play calling and stupid coaching
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 11:19:35 PMNo penalty on Hyatt?
Would've been soft but its never getting called in Buffalo.
Hiatt could've sold it though.
Why call that kind of pass - why not a seam over middle????
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
game over and probably best for the future so we get a better draft pick, just need new guys making the picks.
:boooo: :surrender: :boooo: :boooo: :boooo: :boooo: :boooo: :boooo: :boooo: :boooo: :boooo: :boooo: :boooo: :boooo: :boooo: :boooo: :boooo:
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 11:21:47 PMWhy call that kind of pass - why not a seam over middle????
Why are you assuming that is his first read?
Pass was in his stomach. Need to catch that.
come on wtf was that
Good night everyone and I leave you with..... Go xxxx yourself Dabol
A dominant receiver makes that play for you.
Complete losers across the board.
Quote from: umassgrad on October 15, 2023, 11:21:58 PMgame over and probably best for the future so we get a better draft pick, just need new guys making the picks.
New guys making the picks??? I don't agree with that at all. You don't dump a GM/HC after 2 years.
1-5 everyone.... 1-5
Well the team played ALOT better with Tyrod tonight. I would like to see him play with Thomas and Schmitz and Pugh.
I learned a lot about Daniel Jones tonight. So all is not a loss. We stayed with a top 4 team on national TV
Quote from: umassgrad on October 15, 2023, 11:21:58 PMgame over and probably best for the future so we get a better draft pick, just need new guys making the picks.
Draft pick. They have been striking with high picks as well...they need a core of good veteran players to build around. Trade picks for players. Might be better off
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We really overrated these receivers. A bunch of #3-4s on other teams. They cannot get separation.
Quote from: Philosophers on October 15, 2023, 11:23:01 PMPass was in his stomach. Need to catch that.
Defender had his arm in there.
Quote from: BigBlueFanInFla on October 15, 2023, 11:21:14 PMMadbagger, are you trying to tell me that on 3rd and inches and we go with shotgun after running the ball down their throat that's a talent issue??
That's ridiculous play calling and stupid coaching
If you think this team is remotely close to being as talented as the Bills I don't know what to say.
Quote from: Philosophers on October 15, 2023, 11:23:01 PMPass was in his stomach. Need to catch that.
TT dropped it right there; Slayton somehow whiffed on and let it go right through his hands. I don't know what Chris C is talking about. The DB never ripped the ball away as Slayton never had control.
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 11:23:57 PMWell the team played ALOT better with Tyrod tonight. I would like to see him play with Thomas and Schmitz and Pugh.
I learned a lot about Daniel Jones tonight. So all is not a loss. We stayed with a top 4 team on national TV
They scored 9 points. The defense played better...much better that kept in game
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Slayton shouldve had that... but he had a whole helmet and shoulders to try and grab around
TT is a capable NFL backup. But the reality is, he and Jones are interchangeable. But one is making the big bucks. That's really the only difference.
Is Beasley playing?
Taylor looked pretty good but he had Barkley to help OUT.
same result no tds again
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Guys, they had the ball third and inches and ran a play out of the shotgun. They gutlessly kicked a fg. They're losers.
No good, wide right.
I'm sure I've heard that someplace......
This game ain't over.
Wow. Buff giving the Giants new life.
Let's just throw a bomb and hope for pass interference
It ain't over til it's over.
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Not quite over
A reprieve? Wow. That was dumb
Need Hyatt and Slayton out on routes.
oh god lol... can the gods give us a TD
That's how you go hot right there.
the dink and dunks are obvious coaching calls... annoying
Let's go Tyrod
damn..we get those 3 points end of half... we only need a fg here
Why do they wait so long to get Waller involved?
Quote from: killarich on October 15, 2023, 11:29:29 PMthe dink and dunks are obvious coaching calls... annoying
If buff is giving them to you, you take it, especially if the sideline is open. TT is reading the blitzes and getting the ball out to the hot receiver
Nice job on TT hitting him for a first down
We can do this
Not sure I ever said we had more talent. What I said was the coaching cost us this game.
Tyrod doing good here
Hyatt should've been playing.
damn 4th down
Yes!!!! So close, can we do it?!
Taylor looking good on this drive
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200+ yards passing...a rarity for the Giants.
Those 3 points before the half would've really helped right about now...
>:( 2
Let's goooo!!
2 shots to the EZ
Play Hyatt more.
Dear God, we couldn't could we?
Tyrod ...geezus my nerves
Sunday Night Drama!!! LET'S GO BLUE!!!!
So here is where Barkley earns his money.
One play on the 1 yard line again!!!!
PI !
Damn it
omg do we run it though
Best game they've played all season.
I can't figure out what's different but that was fun to watch.
I think it must have been Pugh's stability. Clearly the missing piece. :surprise:
WHAT A GAME 😀
That is an awful play call or route one or the other.
Actually it was interference I stand corrected
NO FUCKING FLAG!!!!!!
Clearly held.
Top 5 pick a cometh.
Good game, despite the coaching.
So grabbing and pulling the jersey is not a PI?
Role out and run if you can
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WTF , refs have selective plays where they call the penalties
Quote from: Philosophers on October 15, 2023, 11:39:09 PMTop 5 pick a cometh.
The team tonight showed some life at least. If they got blown out, I'd agree. Tonight's effort almost portends a competitive squad... that needs its coaching to get the act together ASAP.
That was blatant DPI. Sucks. And I hate Kafka's lame-ass play calling.
Quote from: kingm56 on October 15, 2023, 11:39:35 PMGood game, despite the coaching.
What coaching are you talking about I thought they played as well as they could
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Right side of end zone was wide open. Everyone knew it was Waller or Barkley. Kafka could've planned something else like Chiefs do
Quote from: sooners56 on October 15, 2023, 11:39:51 PMSo grabbing and pulling the jersey is not a PI?
We're never getting two in a row in Buffalo.
F Buffalo and their f-ing Bills Mafia.
No good, wide right you ballbags.
That was a terribly officiated game
Quote from: kingm56 on October 15, 2023, 11:39:35 PMGood game, despite the coaching.
We lost on the last play, after only giving up 14 on the road, with our backup quarterback and a left tackle who hasn't played in almost a year. Had to say it was a poorly coached game.
The refs were awful too. They are the bane of the nfl always.
Quote from: spiderblue43 on October 15, 2023, 11:41:52 PMThe refs were awful too. They are the bane of the nfl always.
It isn't a design flaw, it's a feature. Funny how the "better" team always gets the calls.
You make that FG at the end of the first half and we win 15-14. We should have won this game.
Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 15, 2023, 09:07:42 PMWho was it that was saying Pugh was going to be a difference maker? LOL
Pugh deserves a helluva lot of credit for how he settled not only himself down but as I've been saying his veteran leadership has a chance to help this Oline jell.
Great job by Pugh
Even Collinsworth says it was PI, Waller couldn't get his second hand up.
Quote from: MagicRat on October 15, 2023, 11:46:33 PMEven Collinsworth says it was PI, Waller couldn't get his second hand up.
The officials weren't giving them another shot.
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 11:46:11 PMPugh deserves a helluva lot of credit for how he settled not only himself down but as I've been saying his veteran leadership has a chance to help this Oline jell.
Great job by Pugh
100%. He was light years better than Ezudu has been the last couple weeks. I am cautiously optimistic that this line will take a big step forward when Thomas and JMS return to the lineup.
Refs should be investigated
Quote from: Trench on October 15, 2023, 11:46:11 PMPugh deserves a helluva lot of credit for how he settled not only himself down but as I've been saying his veteran leadership has a chance to help this Oline jell.
Great job by Pugh
Yep, kudos to him. Coming off the street that was a helluva job.
Quote from: Messiah717 on October 15, 2023, 11:47:41 PMThe officials weren't giving them another shot.
Oh I know, two PI calls back to back in Buffalo......never.
Quote from: Messiah717 on October 15, 2023, 11:47:41 PMThe officials weren't giving them another shot.
Then they shouldn't be officiating. I do not want to see these crew calling playoff games.
Pugh earned a spot on the team.... as a starter at that
Quote from: Woody on October 15, 2023, 11:40:53 PMWhat coaching are you talking about I thought they played as well as they could
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Yeah, the clock management and offensive play calling were absolutely Devine.
There certainly could've been a flag on the final play. That said Waller has to be busting through the defender and get way up for the pass.
Quote from: kingm56 on October 15, 2023, 11:59:51 PMYeah, the clock management and offensive play calling were absolutely Devine.
Never said it was Devine but as we saw at end of first half .....the Qb often has final play call decision in their hands not coaches.
Hard to judge from couch what is actually happening on the field and what goes into play calling and final decisions on a play at the line of scrimmage.
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Quote from: Woody on October 16, 2023, 07:34:39 AMNever said it was Devine but as we saw at end of first half .....the Qb often has final play call decision in their hands not coaches.
Hard to judge from couch what is actually happening on the field and what goes into play calling and final decisions on a play at the line of scrimmage.
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How come you don't apply this same logic when DJ is playing? You routinely blame the OL and play calling when DJs under center; however, today, you seem to put the onus on the QB. That's an interesting trick, Woody...
Thought that game might have been a weird dream when I woke up this morning.
Valiant effort by the D and really by the patchwork OL. Bottom line, you have to score TDs to win.
It's nice to have something to complain about in a game that most of us thought the Giants had no shot to win.
I know fans here are upset with losing a game the Giants could have won. But f you think we are alone and really want to see a fanbase upset with their team's play yesterday, go over to the Bills' Message Boards. They thought they would be happily going to bed at halftime. They are losing their minds over there.