If this is true, what does that say about Daboll and his abilities as a head coach?
https://x.com/clt_ny/status/1742993040917008495?s=20
What does it mean "if it were their choice"////
Are they chained to their desks at Giants Stadium???
Dumpster Dan
QuoteOn his pod @JordanRaanan says he thinks if
My first and immediate thought is, "Who the hell cares what he thinks??? What does that have to do with anything?"
On top of that, Wink and Kafka have a choice. They all have a choice. It's called a resignation.
Some of these "reporters" should try reporting instead of spitting out what they think.
Quote from: Dumpster Dan on January 04, 2024, 03:31:49 PMWhat does it mean "if it were their choice"////
Are they chained to their desks at Giants Stadium???
Dumpster Dan
I guess an unhappy coordinator could ask for their release (or simply not renew their contract when it expires), but that is rather unusual, and I suspect such a move may put a negative on their resume.
Admittedly, much of this is somewhat virgin territory as most HCs hire coordinators they know and have worked with before as opposed to Daboll's interview and hire the most qualified approach.
While Daboll's approach intuitively seems like the better approach, when things go south (like they did last season) you don't have a foundational friendship to help weather the storm.
Quote from: T200 on January 04, 2024, 03:34:33 PMMy first and immediate thought is, "Who the hell cares what he thinks??? What does that have to do with anything?"
On top of that, Wink and Kafka have a choice. They all have a choice. It's called a resignation.
Some of these "reporters" should try reporting instead of spitting out what they think.
For what it's worth, there was that very reliable source who announced that there were serious tensions between Dabs and Wink. Most discussions on the topic seemed to indicate that the problem was more Wink having issues with Daboll than vice versa.
Dabs seems like he's a screamer. We've seen him flip out at players plenty of times before. If he does anything like that with coordinators and assistants (even less loud but just very abrupt, emotional reactions), not everyone is good with that in a work environment. I know I would have a hard time working under someone who was like that.
Now of course there's a difference between doing that with a player in a game situation and doing it in a workplace setting during the workweek. The latter would be much less acceptable in my view. I have no idea if he actually does that, but if that side of his personality that we see during games plays itself out during the workweek with his staff, I could see how that could cause problems.
Quote from: MightyGiants on January 04, 2024, 03:39:03 PMFor what it's worth, there was that very reliable source who announced that there were serious tensions between Dabs and Wink. Most discussions on the topic seemed to indicate that the problem was more Wink having issues with Daboll than vice versa.
That doesn't have anything to do with Ranaan sharing what he thinks Wink would do. They lose me with stuff like this.
Quote from: T200 on January 04, 2024, 03:49:50 PMThat doesn't have anything to do with Ranaan sharing what he thinks Wink would do. They lose me with stuff like this.
Tim,
I appreciate what you are saying, and to a large extent, I agree. In this particular instance, I think the other information available just makes this one incident more relevant to me.
I hope his comments gain some traction, as I would love to hear what other beat reporters think.
While, in general, I don't put a huge amount of faith in beat reporters, I am mindful that they have the best access to the team and see and hear things we, as fans, don't have access to.
Both Wink and Kafka will not be here next season.
Followed by midseason next year by HC "Sparky".
And Shoen is on a shorter leash than ever.
We are in cap hell.....again.
And this draft better be special, cuz the first two ain't even close.
Someone, please tell me why a coordinator, or anyone for that matter, would leave not knowing if they will be working the next year. Come on, last year both were in huge demand and both would probably get jobs somewhere right now, but in the real world, you just don't leave when you have nothing else on the table. Moey still talks and bills need to be paid, so why leave a cushy paying job because ??????????????
There could be a number of reasons why they would want to leave or give that impression. I don't think they would be stupid enough to bury their HC to a reporter. Perhaps they are fed up with the NY media. Or perhaps the Fickle fans. Maybe he caught them on a bad day. Lots of pressure on Daboll and those Coaches this year. Think about what that could possibly be like getting your competency questioned every other day, X, FB, Instagram, Threads, Podcasts, and daily articles keeping everyone relevant. They make tremendous sacrifices to do their jobs 18 hours a day, about 350 days a year.
Wink's old school and comes from the Buddy Ryan tree. The same thing that got Kevin Gilbride punched in the face is rearing its head again.
Daboll's offense stinks, and it affects Wink's D. Yet Wink is taking guff from Daboll during the week. You know the relationship was pretty much done when Wink told Pam Oliver that bit about having to outplay the other team's offense and defense.
Quote from: LennG on January 04, 2024, 04:48:02 PMSomeone, please tell me why a coordinator, or anyone for that matter, would leave not knowing if they will be working the next year. Come on, last year both were in huge demand and both would probably get jobs somewhere right now, but in the real world, you just don't leave when you have nothing else on the table. Moey still talks and bills need to be paid, so why leave a cushy paying job because ??????????????
Thanks for posting this bit of common sense. I'm not sure why it's so hard for folks to imagine coaches who love being in the NFL but don't love their current situation. The "choice" Raanan is talking about is a coordinator job with another organization. How often do we hear about players wanting to be traded to a team of their choosing. They aren't dumb enough to walk away from the contract, they just want to be in a better situation.
I don't know if Jordan's reporting is true but I believe a source he trusts fed him this info. He didn't just make it up.
Not going to lie, I had to Google "druthers".
Wink needs to stay , I hope whatver beef he has with Daboll can get fixed
Kafka can go.... go far away
Quote from: killarich on January 05, 2024, 04:58:52 AMWink needs to stay , I hope whatver beef he has with Daboll can get fixed
Kafka can go.... go far away
I do think the Giants would look bad (Daboll in particular) if they sacked Wink after just two seasons here. He is very well respected around the league.
Why does this story have to be related to the Head Coach? NFL coordinators are competitive; by proxy, they want to be viewed as the best in their relative professions. To be the best, you must possess talent/difference-makers, which the Giants have little. I'm sure each would prefer better situations to produce top-tier offensive/defensive rankings. Unless something dramatically happens over next 6-months, that's unlikely to happen in NY, especially if we enter a 6th season with DJ as our starting QB.
Quote from: killarich on January 05, 2024, 04:58:52 AMWink needs to stay , I hope whatver beef he has with Daboll can get fixed
Kafka can go.... go far away
Why do you want to retain a DC responsible for producing the NFL's 28th ranked Defense? For goodness sake, the Giants have allowed 47 TDs, 24.8 PPG and 366 YPG. Every single defensive metric points to the Giants being a bottom 5 defensive team. While the Giants Offense hasn't produced any better results with a 30th overall ranking, it shouldn't be lost on anyone that side of the ball was hit with far more injuries, having lost 2x QBs, AP RB, TE, and AP LT for significant portions of the season. In short, it seems many are holding Kafka to a different standard than Wink. The latter is getting a pass for producing similar results, while the former is viewed as the impetus of our offensive foibles. Kafka is far from a primary reason for the Giants offensive struggles, just like the 4 OCs who proceeded him over the last 6 years. The Giants don't have a single dynamic player on offense, a QB who's never been a prolific pass, at any level, and one of the worst Olines in the league. There's not a single OC in the league that would produce tangible improvement with the same talent. I am far more critical of Wink, who produced the same results with better talent.
Quote from: kingm56 on January 05, 2024, 06:44:34 AMWhy does this story have to be related to the Head Coach?
Fair question/point Matt.
I guess my response would be that I can't think of a great deal of examples where a coordinator leaves a job on his own volition to go to another coordinator job.
We obviously see lateral moves happen in other industries all the time, but I can't say I think they're commonplace in the NFL.
I'm not even sure if Wink was "fired" in Baltimore, but it was pretty obvious he had some sort of falling out with Harbaugh and it was at best a "mutual" decision for him to leave. I don't think everything was honky dory and he just decided to up and leave one of the best franchises in the NFL for one of the worst (as far as the last decade goes).
Anyway we'll see. This stuff isn't keeping me up at night. I care at least 100x more about what our roster looks like in early Sep. Especially at the QB position.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 05, 2024, 07:06:39 AMFair question/point Matt.
I guess my response would be that I can't think of a great deal of examples where a coordinator leaves a job on his own volition to go to another coordinator job.
We obviously see lateral moves happen in other industries all the time, but I can't say I think they're commonplace in the NFL.
I'm not even sure if Wink was "fired" in Baltimore, but it was pretty obvious he had some sort of falling out with Harbaugh and it was at best a "mutual" decision for him to leave. I don't think everything was honky dory and he just decided to up and leave one of the best franchises in the NFL for one of the worst (as far as the last decade goes).
Anyway we'll see. This stuff isn't keeping me up at night. I care at least 100x more about what our roster looks like in early Sep. Especially at the QB position.
Good stuff, Jeff! Fundamentally, I don't blame Kafka for wanting a better situation; his expertise revolves around a passing offense. Currently, he's saddled with a QB and Oline completely inept in that department. Concerning Wink, it shouldn't be lost on anyone that Balt defensive is significantly better without him. I'm not suggesting he's a bad DC; instead, I'm suggesting we won't see improvement until we get an infusion of talent on both sides of the ball, independent of the coordinators.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 05, 2024, 06:28:14 AMI do think the Giants would look bad (Daboll in particular) if they sacked Wink after just two seasons here. He is very well respected around the league.
Yeaaa ... and defense is far from perect but it has kept us in many games
Quote from: killarich on January 05, 2024, 07:59:39 AMYeaaa ... and defense is far from perect but it has kept us in many games
To be fair, the def also lost us a few games; they also allowed more than 30 points in 7 of 16 games. At the end of the day, both sides of the ball were bottom 5; thus, I'm having a hard time understanding why Kafka is vilified and Wink gets a pass. Again, the latter had more talent than the former; yet, produced similar results.
Quote from: kingm56 on January 05, 2024, 06:56:24 AMWhy do you want to retain a DC responsible for producing the NFL's 28th ranked Defense? For goodness sake, the Giants have allowed 47 TDs, 24.8 PPG and 366 YPG. Every single defensive metric points to the Giants being a bottom 5 defensive team. While the Giants Offense hasn't produced any better results with a 30th overall ranking, it shouldn't be lost on anyone that side of the ball was hit with far more injuries, having lost 2x QBs, AP RB, TE, and AP LT for significant portions of the season. In short, it seems many are holding Kafka to a different standard than Wink. The latter is getting a pass for producing similar results, while the former is viewed as the impetus of our offensive foibles. Kafka is far from a primary reason for the Giants offensive struggles, just like the 4 OCs who proceeded him over the last 6 years. The Giants don't have a single dynamic player on offense, a QB who's never been a prolific pass, at any level, and one of the worst Olines in the league. There's not a single OC in the league that would produce tangible improvement with the same talent. I am far more critical of Wink, who produced the same results with better talent.
Good post. This defense has inexplicably been so overrated. 29th in run defense, 28th last year. They give up nearly 5 yards a carry on the road. This is pitiful.
It wouldn't surprise me if Ken Dorsey is the next OC.
If he doesn't stay on as LV's HC, I'd like to see the Giants take a hard look at Antonio Pierce for DC.
Quote from: kingm56 on January 05, 2024, 06:56:24 AMWhy do you want to retain a DC responsible for producing the NFL's 28th ranked Defense? For goodness sake, the Giants have allowed 47 TDs, 24.8 PPG and 366 YPG. Every single defensive metric points to the Giants being a bottom 5 defensive team. While the Giants Offense hasn't produced any better results with a 30th overall ranking, it shouldn't be lost on anyone that side of the ball was hit with far more injuries, having lost 2x QBs, AP RB, TE, and AP LT for significant portions of the season. In short, it seems many are holding Kafka to a different standard than Wink. The latter is getting a pass for producing similar results, while the former is viewed as the impetus of our offensive foibles. Kafka is far from a primary reason for the Giants offensive struggles, just like the 4 OCs who proceeded him over the last 6 years. The Giants don't have a single dynamic player on offense, a QB who's never been a prolific pass, at any level, and one of the worst Olines in the league. There's not a single OC in the league that would produce tangible improvement with the same talent. I am far more critical of Wink, who produced the same results with better talent.
I have said it before and I apologize who have seen my posts before I think the league has caught up with Wink's D. I am not qualified to talk about the lack of talent that he has to work with, but it is my HIMO. They have.
Id be happy with Wink as HC and Daboll in LA coaching the Chargers
Quote from: Giant Obsession on January 04, 2024, 04:00:28 PMBoth Wink and Kafka will not be here next season.
Followed by midseason next year by HC "Sparky".
And Shoen is on a shorter leash than ever.
We are in cap hell.....again.
And this draft better be special, cuz the first two ain't even close.
I think Schoen and Daboll are safe, even next year unless we are even worse than this year. Perhaps Daboll more on hot seat than Schoen but the GM will have much more time in the seat. As for cap hell, it is not the long term Gettleman cap hell, it is short term, with outs and work-arounds.
That said the one thing that confuses me is how these teams always somehow trade for superstars give them these huge contracts and never seem to be in the year to year situation where they're bumping up against the cap like we are without any of the massive signings.
Wink has not utilized Thibs to his strengths. This is a big problem. 90% of the time when he drops into coverage he isn't even involved in the play and worse, he looks out of sorts. The other issue is this scheme hasn't produced the QB pressure it is intended to do. We are absolutely horrible defending the screen pass and the run up the middle.
On a positive note, our young safeties (Pinnock/Belton) have shown they can do the job in the event we let McKinney walk. The loss of Love has turned out to be a lot more than people anticipated. This years defense just looked different without him.
Quote from: kingm56 on January 05, 2024, 06:56:24 AMWhy do you want to retain a DC responsible for producing the NFL's 28th ranked Defense? For goodness sake, the Giants have allowed 47 TDs, 24.8 PPG and 366 YPG. Every single defensive metric points to the Giants being a bottom 5 defensive team. While the Giants Offense hasn't produced any better results with a 30th overall ranking, it shouldn't be lost on anyone that side of the ball was hit with far more injuries, having lost 2x QBs, AP RB, TE, and AP LT for significant portions of the season. In short, it seems many are holding Kafka to a different standard than Wink. The latter is getting a pass for producing similar results, while the former is viewed as the impetus of our offensive foibles. Kafka is far from a primary reason for the Giants offensive struggles, just like the 4 OCs who proceeded him over the last 6 years. The Giants don't have a single dynamic player on offense, a QB who's never been a prolific pass, at any level, and one of the worst Olines in the league. There's not a single OC in the league that would produce tangible improvement with the same talent. I am far more critical of Wink, who produced the same results with better talent.
That ranking is deceptive for a few reasons:
1st and most importantly, this team is inept on special teams as well as on offense. Which means that the defense has often dealt with short fields as well as fatigue from all of the three and outs.
Sooner or later you're going to burn out as a defender playing under those circumstances. Credit to Wink and the defense for continuing to fight.
2nd like the offense, they have had to fight through injuries as well as developing young talent. I don't think it's a stretch to say that he's handled it better than the offense and special teams.
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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on January 06, 2024, 02:28:02 PMThat ranking is deceptive for a few reasons:
1st and most importantly, this team is inept on special teams as well as on offense. Which means that the defense has often dealt with short fields as well as fatigue from all of the three and outs.
Sooner or later you're going to burn out as a defender playing under those circumstances. Credit to Wink and the defense for continuing to fight.
2nd like the offense, they have had to fight through injuries as well as developing young talent. I don't think it's a stretch to say that he's handled it better than the offense and special teams.
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They're giving up 4.9 yards per carry on the road. How can that possibly be justified or excused? This defense is a problem.
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on January 06, 2024, 04:47:09 PMThey're giving up 4.9 yards per carry on the road. How can that possibly be justified or excused? This defense is a problem.
In a vacuum that appears to be a defensive weakness. But the overall performance of this defense given the obstacles that they're dealing with has been solid.
4.9 avg is similar to a RB who averages 3 YPC in the 1st 3 QTRS and in the 4th rips off a couple of runs for 40 yards and suddenly their overall average is 5 YPC for the game.
You put an offense together that can sustain drives and average 20 points per better per game and I promise you, the same defense presently on the field will be statistically far superior than what the books show now.
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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on January 06, 2024, 04:53:27 PMIn a vacuum that appears to be a defensive weakness. But the overall performance of this defense given the obstacles that they're dealing with has been solid.
4.9 avg is similar to a RB who averages 3 YPC in the 1st 3 QTRS and in the 4th rips off a couple of runs for 40 yards and suddenly their overall average is 5 YPC for the game.
You put an offense together that can sustain drives and average 20 points per better per game and I promise you, the same defense presently on the field will be statistically far superior than what the books show now.
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It's not just a weakness, it's a fatal flaw. You can't win with a defense that consistently allows the average RB to perform like an elite RB.
I'm not a fan of the magical thinking around here over the last decade that things will somehow get better if we believe hard enough. They need to address the front seven beyond Dex and Ekereke.
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on January 06, 2024, 04:53:27 PMBut the overall performance of this defense given the obstacles that they're dealing with has been solid.
As a team they are near rock bottom in the league in both points allowed per game and total yards allowed per game.
What about that is "solid" from an "overall performance" perspective?
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 06, 2024, 05:01:48 PMAs a team they are near rock bottom in the league in both points allowed per game and total yards allowed per game.
What about that is "solid" from an "overall performance" perspective?
When measuring the performance of the team's units for the purposes of determining draft / offseason focus, i care less about how the units rank against the entire league vs. how the units stack up against each other within the context of this team only.
From that perspective, the defense is light years ahead of the offense. Assuming Barkley leaves, the offense needs to upgrade half or more of the starting spots. Whereas the defense only needs to fill 2-3 holes.
Quote from: Stringer Bell on January 06, 2024, 05:16:33 PMWhen measuring the performance of the team's units for the purposes of determining draft / offseason focus, i care less about how the units rank against the entire league vs. how the units stack up against each other within the context of this team only.
From that perspective, the defense is light years ahead of the offense. Assuming Barkley leaves, the offense needs to upgrade half or more of the starting spots. Whereas the defense only needs to fill 2-3 holes.
This is fair. Offense is definitely the priority.
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on January 06, 2024, 05:01:05 PMIt's not just a weakness, it's a fatal flaw. You can't win with a defense that consistently allows the average RB to perform like an elite RB.
I'm not a fan of the magical thinking around here over the last decade that things will somehow get better if we believe hard enough. They need to address the front seven beyond Dex and Ekereke.
I never claimed the defense was a finished product, truth be told they need some upgrades for sure.
I'm talking about complimentary football and when 2 of the 3 units are CONSISTENTLY UNDERPERFORMING it's going to have a negative impact on the performance of the 3rd...in this case the defense.
So yes, the defense can use some reinforcement...but not just the roster on their side of the ball, but the ability to trust that offense and specials don't consistently hang them out to dry.
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Quote from: Stringer Bell on January 06, 2024, 05:16:33 PMWhen measuring the performance of the team's units for the purposes of determining draft / offseason focus, i care less about how the units rank against the entire league vs. how the units stack up against each other within the context of this team only.
From that perspective, the defense is light years ahead of the offense. Assuming Barkley leaves, the offense needs to upgrade half or more of the starting spots. Whereas the defense only needs to fill 2-3 holes.
This is accurate. Both the offense and defense are statistically poor, but if you've watched the games, it was the defense that kept us in most of them. I think their difficulties stemmed from the offense not sustaining drives.
So I agree this draft should be more about the offense. QB, receiver, line, and a good running back if Saquon leaves. I do want a good linebacker though. Right now we have Okereke and a bunch of guys behind him who, on their best day, are just all right.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 06, 2024, 05:01:48 PMAs a team they are near rock bottom in the league in both points allowed per game and total yards allowed per game.
What about that is "solid" from an "overall performance" perspective?
Do you believe that if the offense was average or above average in scoring and TOP that the defense would statistically be ranked near the bottom of the league?
The defense is solid...not great, not a finished product...but solid given a poor offense and poor special teams. This is about complimentary football.
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FWIW, the Giants are 23rd in time of possession. The Giants are also tied for 5th in fewest giveaways. So it is not like the defense is being kneecapped by the offense giving away the ball.
Is there a statistic about the frequency of 3 and outs or other short drives? I dont know but I suspect the Giants would be nearer to the top of the league. Other than a few games against top notch offenses, I often thought the defense ran out of gas against average offenses because they were on the field too long. Just a theory
Quote from: AZGiantFan on January 06, 2024, 11:10:17 PMFWIW, the Giants are 23rd in time of possession. The Giants are also tied for 5th in fewest giveaways. So it is not like the defense is being kneecapped by the offense giving away the ball.
I can't prove it but it seemed like a trend this year in some Giants games the team who controlled time of possession wound up losing a bunch of times.
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on January 06, 2024, 06:35:50 PMDo you believe that if the offense was average or above average in scoring and TOP that the defense would statistically be ranked near the bottom of the league?
That precisely defines this year's Eagles team, so to say it's the offense's fault the defense is so bad is not an automatically valid excuse to me.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 08:18:26 AMThat precisely defines this year's Eagles team, so to say it's the offense's fault the defense is so bad is not an automatically valid excuse to me.
Right. Another way to look at it, who are the worst offenses this season? Giants, Jets, Patriots, and Panthers.
Defensive rankings:
Panthers 3rd
Jets 5th
Patriots 6th
Giants 28th
So why are the other 3 terrible offenses going to finish in the top 10 for defense but the Giants are going to finish in the bottom 5?
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on January 07, 2024, 09:06:40 AMRight. Another way to look at it, who are the worst offenses this season? Giants, Jets, Patriots, and Panthers.
Defensive rankings:
Panthers 3rd
Jets 5th
Patriots 6th
Giants 28th
So why are the other 3 terrible offenses going to finish in the top 10 for defense but the Giants are going to finish in the bottom 5?
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on January 07, 2024, 09:06:40 AMRight. Another way to look at it, who are the worst offenses this season? Giants, Jets, Patriots, and Panthers.
Defensive rankings:
Panthers 3rd
Jets 5th
Patriots 6th
Giants 28th
So why are the other 3 terrible offenses going to finish in the top 10 for defense but the Giants are going to finish in the bottom 5?
Agreed. Because the argument that when your offense is bad it gives your bad defense a pass is not wholly true.
I get the arguments as to why it might be true. If your offense is inept, they will routinely put a gassed D on the field, often with short fields. Makes sense.
On the other hand, if your offense stinks, the opponent's offense will often take their foot off the gas, run the ball more, let the play clock run down, and just try to manage the game at that point. So it cuts both ways.
The bottom line is that the data you provided shows that it's false to say or suggest that a team with a bad offense is automatically going to have a defense whose numbers paint a worse picture than they really are. That is clearly not the case with a lot of these teams, if not most.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 08:18:26 AMThat precisely defines this year's Eagles team, so to say it's the offense's fault the defense is so bad is not an automatically valid excuse to me.
I'm not saying it's that the offense is solely at fault, I'm saying that it's all about complimentary football and that offense' ineptitude contributes to the poor statistics of the defense.
If we were the'86 Giants or '85 Bears the offense ineptitude would not impact the game the way it does today.
Let's face it, the NFL leans its favor heavily into offensive football. Our offense is offensive.
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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on January 07, 2024, 10:17:28 AMI'm not saying it's that the offense is solely at fault, I'm saying that it's all about complimentary football and that offense' ineptitude contributes to the poor statistics of the defense.
If we were the'86 Giants or '85 Bears the offense ineptitude would not impact the game the way it does today.
Let's face it, the NFL leans its favor heavily into offensive football. Our offense is offensive.
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So how do you explain how the Panthers, Jets and Patriots are as bad as the Giants on offense, but all three are in the top-6 defenses?
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on January 07, 2024, 10:27:05 AMSo how do you explain how the Panthers, Jets and Patriots are as bad as the Giants on offense, but all three are in the top-6 defenses?
Because those teams have a better defense than the Giants.
I'm not saying this defense is supposed to be great or that they are really good except for the offense.
I'm simply saying that the defense isn't THAT far off of being good.
Apologies if I'm not making my point clear.
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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on January 07, 2024, 10:30:21 AMBecause those teams have a better defense than the Giants.
I'm not saying this defense is supposed to be great or that they are really good except for the offense.
I'm simply saying that the defense isn't THAT far off of being good.
Apologies if I'm not making my point clear.
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Ok, that makes sense. I agree that the defense is not good and needs work, but the offense is in much worse shape.
We have a HC who is "allegedly" an offensive mind and a QB whisperer. (Not saying that he's not, just not this year).
I think we can all agree that we all anticipated that the offense would take the next step (particularly in the passing game and solidifying the offensive line). We have been suffering through stagnant offenses for years and 2022 gave us all a glimmer of hope for this season.
The defense and special teams were supposed to complement a high powered offense.
None of this materialized, but I think it's fair to say that the biggest disappointment has been the offense because that is the way the expectations were set.
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