https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1755907919856680972?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
A step back. It's interesting and leads to speculation as to why. Was he put at arms length at the NFL level after his antics with the Giants? Did he simply decide he just wanted to work with young players and develop them? Was there a connection that he was drawn to. He's a good defensive mind and the players like him. It's an excellent program and he should flourish there.
Interesting. Many thought there was a threat of him going to Philly. Turns out the only threat was when he was on the staff.
Best of luck to ya, Wink.
Quote from: Ed Vette on February 09, 2024, 06:36:38 AMA step back. It's interesting and leads to speculation as to why. Was he put at arms length at the NFL level after his antics with the Giants? Did he simply decide he just wanted to work with young players and develop them? Was there a connection that he was drawn to. He's a good defensive mind and the players like him. It's an excellent program and he should flourish there.
Wink is likely making $2 million instead of $3 million but the hours and the workload is significantly less at the college level
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 09, 2024, 08:07:57 AMWink is likely making $2 million instead of $3 million but the hours and the workload is significantly less at the college level
Is that $2 million published anywhere? Previous DC made about $1.25m. Also, NIL has changed the college game big time. More of a full time recruiting job
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 09, 2024, 08:07:57 AMWink is likely making $2 million instead of $3 million but the hours and the workload is significantly less at the college level
Good for him.. He made watching the Giants exciting and at least tolerable to watch as on the other side we were setting punting and FG records. The thought of more Jones/Barkley offense this year makes me cringe
I hope our new DC can keep up the good defensive play
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 09, 2024, 08:07:57 AMWink is likely making $2 million instead of $3 million but the hours and the workload is significantly less at the college level
College coaches have longer hours than pro coaches with all the recruiting, on campus entertaining of recruits, boosters/alum time. Much more demanding 24/7/365 job than pros. Everything a pro coach a college coach does plus all I listed.
Quote from: nb587 on February 09, 2024, 08:16:45 AMIs that $2 million published anywhere? Previous DC made about $1.25m. Also, NIL has changed the college game big time. More of a full time recruiting job
Good point, he's a powerful recruiting name.
Quote from: Philosophers on February 09, 2024, 09:19:43 AMCollege coaches have longer hours than pro coaches with all the recruiting, on campus entertaining of recruits, boosters/alum time. Much more demanding 24/7/365 job than pros. Everything a pro coach a college coach does plus all I listed.
We only see our friend once or twice a year. It's a very demanding job.
Quote from: nb587 on February 09, 2024, 08:16:45 AMIs that $2 million published anywhere? Previous DC made about $1.25m. Also, NIL has changed the college game big time. More of a full time recruiting job
Minter had a base of 1.15 million plus a max bonus of .575 million, so he was likely paid close to 1.7 million. The $2 million was a rough guess based on where the Michigan program is and Wink's resume
First point. It's disgusting that a coach who is not the head coach can make this much money coaching so called student athletes at an institute for higher learning while the student there to learn are saddled with 100K in student debt loans. But whatever no one seems to cares. That being said Wink badly miscalculated his worth in the NFL. I do wonder if his reputation has taken a hit.
Quote from: TDToomer on February 09, 2024, 09:51:48 AMFirst point. It's disgusting that a coach who is not the head coach can make this much money coaching so called student athletes at an institute for higher learning while the student there to learn are saddled with 100K in student debt loans. But whatever no one seems to cares. That being said Wink badly miscalculated his worth in the NFL. I do wonder if his reputation has taken a hit.
Those "student-athletes" are making healthy salaries now via NIL. Hell, I hear at the bigger programs, they will even pay students to leave, so they can get the scholarship slot back for another player
Good luck to him.
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 09, 2024, 08:07:57 AMWink is likely making $2 million instead of $3 million but the hours and the workload is significantly less at the college level
Coaches at the highest level don't care about stuff like hours.
I believe I mentioned the possibility of Wink considering coaching in the college ranks previously.
The move is telling, however, in that apparently even the colleges don't consider him as head-coaching "timber."
Best of luck, man.
Bob
https://x.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1756304502783688735?s=20
As a Michigan fan, I am not convinced this is a great hire. First, college football is about recruiting, recruiting and recruiting. Wink is 60+ and he's a low energy, not much personality type of guy. I am not sure his personality will resonate with high school football prospects. Second, he has been an NFL coach for so long that he does not have ties to any regions or high school coaches within regions so no relationships there. If he brings Drew or Kevin Wilkins with him onto the staff, that will be another staff member without ties to high schools.
Lastly, he got ceremoniously pushed out by John Harbaugh of the Ravens. Now, he gets pushed out by the Giants and Dabs. It's not about his Xs and Os anymore, but is there something insidious going on with him in terms of these rumored fiefdoms? Michigan's coaching staff under Jim Harbaugh was among the best I have ever seen as tacticians, developing players and communicating well between the coaches. I am not sure Wink brings this over.
Quote from: Philosophers on February 10, 2024, 09:10:37 AMAs a Michigan fan, I am not convinced this is a great hire. First, college football is about recruiting, recruiting and recruiting. Wink is 60+ and he's a low energy, not much personality type of guy. I am not sure his personality will resonate with high school football prospects. Second, he has been an NFL coach for so long that he does not have ties to any regions or high school coaches within regions so no relationships there. If he brings Drew or Kevin Wilkins with him onto the staff, that will be another staff member without ties to high schools.
Lastly, he got ceremoniously pushed out by John Harbaugh of the Ravens. Now, he gets pushed out by the Giants and Dabs. It's not about his Xs and Os anymore, but is there something insidious going on with him in terms of these rumored fiefdoms? Michigan's coaching staff under Jim Harbaugh was among the best I have ever seen as tacticians, developing players and communicating well between the coaches. I am not sure Wink brings this over.
I heard one plus with Wink is the prior two DCs had similar schemes and terminology. The other thing with Wink is he has a bit of a larger-than-life persona that may play well with parents and recruits.
Quote from: TDToomer on February 09, 2024, 09:51:48 AMFirst point. It's disgusting that a coach who is not the head coach can make this much money coaching so called student athletes at an institute for higher learning while the student there to learn are saddled with 100K in student debt loans. But whatever no one seems to cares. That being said Wink badly miscalculated his worth in the NFL. I do wonder if his reputation has taken a hit.
Sports can contribute 40% of an institution's revenue. Only the top programs pay that much but most are mid to high six figures.
Quote from: Ed Vette on February 10, 2024, 09:23:01 AMSports can contribute 40% of an institution's revenue. Only the top programs pay that much but most are mid to high six figures.
Then why is their tuition as high as the division 2-3 schools?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bigblueview.com/platform/amp/2024/2/11/24069225/wink-martindale-protege-drew-wilkins-wont-follow-him-to-ann-arbor-ny-giants-new-england-patriots
The guys that wink went to back for and quit over aren't even following him to Michigan.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on February 11, 2024, 01:11:11 PMhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bigblueview.com/platform/amp/2024/2/11/24069225/wink-martindale-protege-drew-wilkins-wont-follow-him-to-ann-arbor-ny-giants-new-england-patriots
The guys that wink went to back for and quit over aren't even following him to Michigan.
Of course, there is the other side of that coin. The guy that Daboll claimed was so bad he needed to be fired (that triggered all the drama) easily found an NFL job.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on February 11, 2024, 01:11:11 PMhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bigblueview.com/platform/amp/2024/2/11/24069225/wink-martindale-protege-drew-wilkins-wont-follow-him-to-ann-arbor-ny-giants-new-england-patriots
The guys that wink went to back for and quit over aren't even following him to Michigan.
BB never would have hired him.