Big Blue Huddle

General Category => Big Blue Huddle => Topic started by: Philosophers on March 07, 2024, 01:14:06 AM

Poll
Question: If all 4 QBs were available for Giants at 6
Option 1: Caleb Williams votes: 16
Option 2: Drake Maye votes: 5
Option 3: Jayden Daniels votes: 15
Option 4: JJ McCarthy votes: 6
Title: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: Philosophers on March 07, 2024, 01:14:06 AM
Let's see where we stand
Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: Bob In PA on March 07, 2024, 07:18:47 AM
Good one, Phil. I like Daniels best, but I'll support whomever they take (I hope it's not a QB).

It's THEIR heads on the chopping block, so I'll assume they did what's best for the team (and themselves).

I'm sure they have a plan of attack ready by now and much of their upcoming draft strategy will be revealed by the moves they make (or try to make) during the free-agency process.

Bob




Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: MightyGiants on March 07, 2024, 07:33:26 AM
I voted for McCarthy because I think he is the least risky of the four, but I could have just as easily voted for Maye. I would need more intel about interviews, whiteboard work, etc. to say for sure.


I don't want to draft Caleb because I don't favor boom-or-bust prospects.   Daniels is interesting, but his failure to do measurements at the Combine bothered me, especially as it's possible he is a sub-200 or just over 200-pound prospect.    I am also bothered that he has only a single year of high-quality work and that one year was under ideal conditions, the type he would not have in the NFL.
Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: Philosophers on March 07, 2024, 08:39:49 AM
We have a number of people on this board so I hope they all vote as it would be great to see where the board overall is leaning.  Like something previously said, whoever they draft at QB if they go that way, I'll be 100% behind.  Same if they don't draft a QB. 
Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: Ed Vette on March 07, 2024, 09:14:51 AM
Interesting. It's an indication that Maye hurt himself by not participating in his Team's Bowl game or the Combine. They lost easily to West Virginia without him. At least by the perception of the fans.

I still took him at this point but that can change.
Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: T200 on March 07, 2024, 09:47:51 AM
Undecided between Maye and Daniels.
Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: President Rick on March 07, 2024, 01:18:17 PM
I voted daniels because there was not an option for NONE.  we have too many other needs and DJ under a huge contract.  There will be qb's in the draft in'25, just in case.
Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: kingm56 on March 07, 2024, 02:17:04 PM
Quote from: President Rick on March 07, 2024, 01:18:17 PMI voted daniels because there was not an option for NONE.  we have too many other needs and DJ under a huge contract.  There will be qb's in the draft in'25, just in case.

That's the beauty of the rookie salary scale.  It's doesn't matter what position the Giants draft, the cost is directly linked to the draft position...it will cost us the same for a QB as a RT.  Under the old system, there's no way we could afford a QB at 6. 

Given the Giants chances to compete this year are incredibly low, I wouldn't be concerned about spreading the cap among position groups to fortify the roster.  I'd prefer the Giants position themselves for 2025 and beyond, and that means drafting a QB.   Regardless, I get your logic and realize its shared by many. 

I voted for Williams based on upside; if it doesn't workout, I try again in 2 years when DJs contract is off the books. 
Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: DaveBrown74 on March 07, 2024, 07:29:03 PM
I voted for Caleb Williams. I recognize he could bust and that there are some red flags. I want the ceiling though. I have been very impressed with his talent and skill set for some time now.
Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: y_so_blu on March 07, 2024, 11:42:25 PM
I voted McCarthy on a gut feeling that he's the right guy. Daniels is my second choice, Maye is my third, and I want nothing to do with Williams.
Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on March 08, 2024, 08:30:45 AM
I vote for a trade down and a QB on day 2 or 3


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Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: sooners56 on March 08, 2024, 11:40:02 AM
I chose Caleb Williams.

He has multiple years playing at an elite level.
The offensive talent he played with at USC was not NFL worthy like some of the other QBs listed. Yet he still balled out. He elevated their play.
I have seen Williams single handedly win games (See OU Texas).
His throwing ability while escaping pressure is 2nd to none. Although he threw 3 interceptions against Notre Dame, if you watched the game you would see he played a pretty darn good game, considering he was harrassed the whole time. USC Oline got abused all game. Imo, Williams is going to be a star


Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: DaveBrown74 on March 08, 2024, 03:26:38 PM
Quote from: sooners56 on March 08, 2024, 11:40:02 AMI chose Caleb Williams.

He has multiple years playing at an elite level.
The offensive talent he played with at USC was not NFL worthy like some of the other QBs listed. Yet he still balled out. He elevated their play.
I have seen Williams single handedly win games (See OU Texas).
His throwing ability while escaping pressure is 2nd to none. Although he threw 3 interceptions against Notre Dame, if you watched the game you would see he played a pretty darn good game, considering he was harrassed the whole time. USC Oline got abused all game. Imo, Williams is going to be a star




Excellent point about the talent around him at USC. While I'm sure his teammates on offense aren't bad, you're not seeing any of his wide receivers, tight ends, RBs, or OTs going in mocks anywhere in the top 50.

To be fair the same can probably be said about Maye to some extent.

Daniels had studs around him. So did Joe Burrow though. Doesn't mean you're not good.
Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: Woody on March 08, 2024, 03:39:51 PM
I was leaning Daniels until I saw him in street clothes the other day.....if he currently weighs more than 190 right now I would be shocked.
He has a very small build and will get
Killed in NFL .....not sure he can handle the beating every QB has to take


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Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: spiderblue43 on March 08, 2024, 03:41:21 PM
Daniels by a good margin. I don't trust Caleb.. size..attitude..etc. Maye is a project and JJ overrated by some.

JD is as Chris Walken said in his BMW ad..
"100 per cent...electric!!!"

 :dance:  :worship:
Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: spiderblue43 on March 08, 2024, 03:50:59 PM
Quote from: Woody on March 08, 2024, 03:39:51 PMI was leaning Daniels until I saw him in street clothes the other day.....if he currently weighs more than 190 right now I would be shocked.
He has a very small build and will get
Killed in NFL .....not sure he can handle the beating every QB has to take


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Daniels weighed in at 210. Agree..he needs to fill out. Major priority but his skill set is terrific.
Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: Woody on March 08, 2024, 03:55:19 PM
Quote from: spiderblue43 on March 08, 2024, 03:50:59 PMDaniels weighed in at 210. Agree..he needs to fill out. Major priority but his skill set is terrific.
I thought he skipped weigh in at combine


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Title: Re: If all 4 QB were available to Giants
Post by: MightyGiants on March 08, 2024, 04:01:09 PM
https://x.com/thorku/status/1766128891783946541?s=20