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General Category => Big Blue Huddle => Topic started by: Rosehill Jimmy on March 11, 2024, 05:19:30 PM

Title: Burns Rumor
Post by: Rosehill Jimmy on March 11, 2024, 05:19:30 PM
https://x.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1767293045504983246?s=61&t=meiiQwOnGSoMsm66TJh5kQ

I don't know if this is remote, far fetched or click bait, but if the price is right "come on down".  I loved him coming out of FSU and was quietly hoping he would be there for NYG in '19 draft.  Panthers took him at #16, one spot before Dexter
Title: Re: Burns Rumor
Post by: DaveBrown74 on March 11, 2024, 05:21:48 PM
I'd be good with this. Productive player who is still pretty young and, very importantly, who has exhibited excellent durability to this point.

Guys like this aren't going to come cheap, but this is part of why we're letting non-premium position players like Barkley and McKinney walk.
Title: Re: Burns Rumor
Post by: EliWasrobbed on March 11, 2024, 05:22:11 PM
Would love this pick!! Redeem yourself Joe

Wink would have loved him too :(
Title: Brian Burns may become a New York Giant thread
Post by: EliWasrobbed on March 11, 2024, 05:24:31 PM
https://x.com/sheena_marie3/status/1767298213126754776?s=46&t=189NN-KdTdgB2SgHszC6_A

Wow!! A great move and confirms our defense is playoff caliber.

Now draft a QB and we are back in business
Title: Re: Brian Burns is a New York Giant thread
Post by: MightyGiants on March 11, 2024, 05:27:11 PM
Your title is wrong.  He MAY be a Giant


https://x.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/1767299921961468355?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
Title: Re: Burns Rumor
Post by: DaveBrown74 on March 11, 2024, 05:30:34 PM
Quote from: EliWasrobbed on March 11, 2024, 05:22:11 PMWould love this pick!! Redeem yourself Joe

Wink would have loved him too :(

It's going to have to be a trade. He's under contract.
Title: Re: Burns Rumor
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on March 11, 2024, 05:31:20 PM
Gotta be one of the second round picks in play here.
Title: Re: Brian Burns is a New York Giant thread
Post by: uconnjack8 on March 11, 2024, 05:31:44 PM
I like Burns but pass rushers aren't much use when your offense cannot score (and you can't stop the run).   

Title: Re: Brian Burns may become a New York Giant thread
Post by: EliWasrobbed on March 11, 2024, 05:33:30 PM
Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 11, 2024, 05:31:44 PMI like Burns but pass rushers aren't much use when your offense cannot score (and you can't stop the run).   


we will get Drake Maye and be fine
Title: Re: Burns Rumor
Post by: DaveBrown74 on March 11, 2024, 05:35:12 PM
Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on March 11, 2024, 05:31:20 PMGotta be one of the second round picks in play here.

Yep. I hope not, but you're probably right. If that's the case I can live with it, although I'd prefer it were a 3 and maybe something from next year. Those 2nd rounders (in this draft in particular) are very valuable picks.

With that said Burns is only 26, so we're talking about a guy who can be a very good player for us for 5-plus years. I think I'd part with a 2 for that. Hopefully it's 47 and not 39.
Title: Re: Burns Rumor
Post by: Doc16LT56 on March 11, 2024, 05:46:45 PM
https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1765046508951597230?t=tY-2rYsVumG2LTl3ME6Xag&s=19
Title: Re: Brian Burns may become a New York Giant thread
Post by: uconnjack8 on March 11, 2024, 05:48:49 PM
If they trade for Burns and give up a 2nd, is it safe to say they are not trading up for a QB?
Title: Re: Burns Rumor
Post by: uconnjack8 on March 11, 2024, 05:49:45 PM
Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on March 11, 2024, 05:31:20 PMGotta be one of the second round picks in play here.

Which says to me they are not trading up for a QB.  Not that any of those teams would trade down regardless.
Title: Re: Brian Burns may become a New York Giant thread
Post by: Rosehill Jimmy on March 11, 2024, 05:52:06 PM
Why start a second thread on this topic? 
Title: Re: Brian Burns may become a New York Giant thread
Post by: Gmo11 on March 11, 2024, 05:54:10 PM
Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 11, 2024, 05:48:49 PMIf they trade for Burns and give up a 2nd, is it safe to say they are not trading up for a QB?

If the cost is a 2nd round pick then no they will not be able to trade up for a QB without including multiple future first round picks. But if the cost is a 2nd rounder that's not a bad deal cause this guy is really good.
Title: Re: Burns Rumor
Post by: Doc16LT56 on March 11, 2024, 05:59:45 PM
Before they can finalize a trade, they likely have to agree with Burns on a contract extension. We're likely talking about a 2nd round pick plus another pick, plus a $100 million contract.

It would be a big commitment from the Giants and a huge upgrade to the defense.
Title: Re: Burns Rumor
Post by: DaveBrown74 on March 11, 2024, 06:05:48 PM
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on March 11, 2024, 05:59:45 PMBefore they can finalize a trade, they likely have to agree with Burns on a contract extension. We're likely talking about a 2nd round pick plus another pick, plus a $100 million contract.

It would be a big commitment from the Giants and a huge upgrade to the defense.

Very aptly summarized.

While it's obvious the Giants aren't contending anytime soon, Burns is young enough that I'd be open to something like the above. Generally speaking, I have a very different attitude about expending resources on premium positions versus non-premium positions. Particularly when we're talking about a relatively young and very healthy, durable player who has been consistently productive so far in the league.

As you said Doc, Burns would be a major upgrade and difference maker for our D. We'd be set at starting edge for a while.
Title: Re: Burns Rumor
Post by: EliWasrobbed on March 11, 2024, 06:18:34 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 11, 2024, 06:05:48 PMVery aptly summarized.

While it's obvious the Giants aren't contending anytime soon, Burns is young enough that I'd be open to something like the above. Generally speaking, I have a very different attitude about expending resources on premium positions versus non-premium positions. Particularly when we're talking about a relatively young and very healthy, durable player who has been consistently productive so far in the league.

As you said Doc, Burns would be a major upgrade and difference maker for our D. We'd be set at starting edge for a while.
We wouldn't be contending, but adding Burns gives us a playoff caliber defense.
Title: Re: Burns Rumor
Post by: Section 101 Steve on March 11, 2024, 06:36:23 PM
Igor him for a 2 and a 5. 5 yrs 150 moll
Title: Re: Burns Rumor
Post by: Ed Vette on March 11, 2024, 06:39:50 PM
https://x.com/quezisgodly/status/1767300697484321100?