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Title: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: MightyGiants on April 03, 2024, 11:45:45 AM
How do Slayton, Hyatt, and Robinson stack up to the best in the league?

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Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: Ed Vette on April 03, 2024, 11:54:42 AM
Some of those players have hit their peak and or will have dropped off a bit. Kupp, Diggs, Aiyuk, Allen...

Hyatt and Robinson (injured) both now have a full season even though their playing time was limited.

This is their pivotal season. Wait and see.
Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: nb587 on April 03, 2024, 01:06:07 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on April 03, 2024, 11:54:42 AMSome of those players have hit their peak and or will have dropped off a bit. Kupp, Diggs, Aiyuk, Allen...

Hyatt and Robinson (injured) both now have a full season even though their playing time was limited.

This is their pivotal season. Wait and see.
It's the pivotal season if they have a QB who can get them the ball. That aside, my sense is that our trio doesn't compare to any of these groups and it's one of the reasons I want 1 of the 3 WRs in the draft if we don't get a QB that the brain trust believes in.
Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: sxdxca38 on April 03, 2024, 01:13:05 PM
The Dolphins and Eagles receiving core is awesome.

I would have loved it if the Giants had that group.
Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: Philosophers on April 03, 2024, 01:16:46 PM
Rams trio is also darn good.

Giants need them to develop more pkus replace Slayton.
Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: MightyGiants on April 03, 2024, 01:24:51 PM
Quote from: Philosophers on April 03, 2024, 01:16:46 PMRams trio is also darn good.

Giants need them to develop more pkus replace Slayton.

When was the last time the Giants hit a homerun (hell, or even a triple) with a day-three pick?
Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: TONKA56 on April 03, 2024, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 03, 2024, 01:24:51 PMWhen was the last time the Giants hit a homerun (hell, or even a triple) with a day-three pick?

Maybe Bradshaw.
Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: MightyGiants on April 03, 2024, 02:35:43 PM
Quote from: TONKA56 on April 03, 2024, 02:32:22 PMMaybe Bradshaw.

17 drafts ago
Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: Philosophers on April 03, 2024, 02:43:11 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 03, 2024, 01:24:51 PMWhen was the last time the Giants hit a homerun (hell, or even a triple) with a day-three pick?

It seems like they are out there but identifying them is a problem for the Gmen.
Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: MightyGiants on April 03, 2024, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: Philosophers on April 03, 2024, 02:43:11 PMIt seems like they are out there but identifying them is a problem for the Gmen.

Under Accorsi, the Giants were pretty good at finding day three gems.  The further they moved from EA being GM, the worse they got in terms of day 3.
Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: sooners56 on April 03, 2024, 03:49:04 PM
I am taking all those teams #2 before I even think about grabbing any of the GIants WRs.
Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: TONKA56 on April 03, 2024, 04:02:11 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 03, 2024, 02:35:43 PM17 drafts ago

Hey man I ain't saying we gotta like it. 😏
Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: DaveBrown74 on April 03, 2024, 05:17:40 PM
No doubt the Giants are a long way from the top of the league in terms of wide receiver talent. With that said, it is not clear to me at this stage exactly what we're looking at with guys like Wan'Dale and Hyatt. There is a chance one or both of them could be pretty good. Even if that's the case though, there is no alpha dog, X receiver on this team.
Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: Philosophers on April 03, 2024, 05:40:43 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 03, 2024, 05:17:40 PMNo doubt the Giants are a long way from the top of the league in terms of wide receiver talent. With that said, it is not clear to me at this stage exactly what we're looking at with guys like Wan'Dale and Hyatt. There is a chance one or both of them could be pretty good. Even if that's the case though, there is no alpha dog, X receiver on this team.

I would be happy if we have an alpha dog at slot, Z or X.

Slot - How close is Robinson to the best slot WRs?  He seems to have a lot of wiggle but does he know how to find and sit in open areas like the best slot WRs?

Z - How close is Hyatt to the best Z WRs?  Being off LOS does he possess the route skills to make quick moves to cut/slant in both directions or does he work strictly as more of a linear vertical threat?

X - Of course we need an X.  Slayton has speed but I dont think he fights off jams well and I dont think he wins contested catches outside hashmarks well.
Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: T200 on April 03, 2024, 06:47:07 PM
I'm not concerned about where they stack up against other receiving corps. I'm more concerned with how they develop chemistry with their QB.
Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: Stringer Bell on April 03, 2024, 07:09:45 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on April 03, 2024, 11:54:42 AMSome of those players have hit their peak and or will have dropped off a bit. Kupp, Diggs, Aiyuk, Allen...

Hyatt and Robinson (injured) both now have a full season even though their playing time was limited.

This is their pivotal season. Wait and see.

Aiyuk just turned 26 and is younger than Slayton. He almost had more yards than our trio combined, and he did have more TDs than all of them combined.

Our trio isn't in the same universe as any of the units listed in the graphic. Compared with the rest of the NFC, the only team with a worse WR trio is the Cards (which will change after they draft MHJ) and maybe the Falcons.
Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: Ed Vette on April 03, 2024, 07:53:04 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on April 03, 2024, 07:09:45 PMAiyuk just turned 26 and is younger than Slayton. He almost had more yards than our trio combined, and he did have more TDs than all of them combined.

Our trio isn't in the same universe as any of the units listed in the graphic. Compared with the rest of the NFC, the only team with a worse WR trio is the Cards (which will change after they draft MHJ) and maybe the Falcons.
I'm a Brandon Aiyuk fan. He's at his peak as I said being in the league going on this fifth season. WDR and Hyatt have a lot to prove and as I said in a pivotal year. Where did I imply they were in the same Universe. Players all have their curve as do teams and the salary cap is another factor as Buffalo is facing right now. The other factors are the QB and supporting cast which did no favors for the Giants Receiving Corp.
Title: Re: How does the current NY Giants WR trio stack up against the best?
Post by: coggs on April 04, 2024, 08:10:22 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 03, 2024, 11:45:45 AMHow do Slayton, Hyatt, and Robinson stack up to the best in the league?

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against the best in the league?  Which league?  The Ivy League? Giants wr's are better than any of the WR corps for any of the Ancient 8.  The National Football League?  Not even close to the best trios.  They are probably closer to the ivy leagues than the top of the NFL.