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I voted 4, largely driven by the first three round selections where need met value. I am especially excited about Nabers.

Quote from: madbadger on April 26, 2024, 11:05:34 PMIt isn't. I love Nubin pick. Wished they had taken one of the top three running backs and Corum was still on the board. It's probably more of a reaction at knowing our offense is going to painful to watch again.

Whether you like it or not, they have Gray from last year's draft and signed Devin Singletary. It's a low draft value position and they--at least in their minds--have it filled barring some unforeseen circumstance. Also, if this re-build is longer than one offseason (which it assuredly is), there is next year's draft. Yes, 2024 may be painful... but was there a way to fix that in one draft cycle? I'm not positive that spending a premium pick on a RB would have accomplished a legitimate goal.

Quote from: Philosophers on April 26, 2024, 07:39:16 PMSafeties will be there at 47 I think

Giants history of 2nd round safeties is pretty good (Landon Collins and Xavier McKinney)...

Run on DTs and WRs early in 2.

Given the investment this offseason into the OL, I don't see them going that way with a high pick. I think they'll stick to value (i.e. BPA at position of need).

Probably marginally, but picking Nabers isn't so much about DJ as it is about the next QB.

Quote from: killarich on April 25, 2024, 10:14:01 PMNo you are making a false narrative out of it

You say you are done discussing this but here you are trying to get the last word

one again it is FACT if the Giants were DONE with Jones they would have taken one fo the 2nd tier QBs in this draft regardless of who is available at WR


they did in FACT view #1 WR as  bigger need then moving on from Jones considering the top 3QBs were gone


You are trying to throw this Jones narrative on a wall and hoping it sticks .... did Giants want ti IMPROVE over Jones yes probably most likely

are they DONE with Jones ? No they obviously arent

Again, you can get caught up in a pedantic argument over the term "done with" if it makes you feel better, but it changes nothing. The writing is on the wall. The Nabers pick doesn't change that. Twisting it to make a different point is silly, wasted motion that will be proven (more) foolish in time.

I do agree, however, that we're largely at an impasse trying to parse another man's words against the Giants actions. If this is considered me trying to get the last word, then feel free to follow up. I think we know how each other feels, but I'm frequently wrong about things and would not be surprised to find myself so once again.

I love how the pick of the top WR on the board instead of the 4th QB is a jumping off point for (unnecessary, unprompted) Jones defense. Wild.

Quote from: killarich on April 25, 2024, 09:45:59 PMYes ....they will be DONE after next season if that is the case

RIGHT NOW they are not

Did they try to improve at QB ?? Probably yes most likely ....BUT  they are not DONE at the moment ...if they were you simply take the franchise QB


they believed none of these QB's outside the top 3 are that


so no they are not done with Jones

Honestly, this is pedantic waffling around the term "done with" for no real purpose. So I am, actually, done with discussing it.

Quote from: sxdxca38 on April 25, 2024, 09:34:07 PMHi,

No but if they thought JJ or Penix were superior and potential franchise QB's they would have taken them, but they didn't they passed at #6, why?

You don't pass on a potential franchise QB if you are absolutely done with Daniel Jones as Rich Eisen pontificated all over the internet about 4-6 weeks ago.

The man was completely wrong and mislead a lot of viewers and Giant fans.

If you don't like DJ then that is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

I on the other hand feel with an adequate O line, a #1 explosive WR, and an slightly easier schedule, I believe DJ will have a bounce back year.

Enjoy

And when DJ is cut after this season, will you admit the Giants were "completely done" with him but for considerations having nothing to do with his talents? He's still on the team because of cap considerations. You appear to be declaring victory on DJ's behalf--why I don't know--because the Giants didn't draft the 4th QB at 6, a move that would be a disproportionate utilization of valuable draft capital.

I literally haven't criticized DJ at all in this thread, just noted that the pick of a WR is not confirmation of faith in him. But the defensiveness of DJ against logic is clear.

Quote from: sxdxca38 on April 25, 2024, 09:26:24 PMIf they were picking #1 they would have taken a QB.

My initial post was that Rich Eisen said the Giants were absolutely done with Daniel Jones. That claim has now proven to be false.

They had two QB's in JJ and Penix sitting right there at pick 6 and they passed, why?

Because they realize DJ as of right now is a better QB then both of them, and adding Nabers is going to help DJ bigtime.

Expect a turnaround in 2024, enjoy!

Like another poster said, being done with Jones and the draft pick being non-QB are not mutually exclusive. It also doesn't mean they think Penix/JJ are worse than DJ right now. They believe Nabers is better for this team long-term. This team is not built in a single draft or a single pick.

Quote from: AYM on April 25, 2024, 09:26:29 PMIt doesn't mean we aren't taking a QB at all - there are more rounds to go. Who knows ...

I meant with the top pick, but I agree with you. QB in the 2nd is possible, but I think Nix goes sooner than later.

Quote from: sxdxca38 on April 25, 2024, 09:21:18 PMIf they were absolutely done with him, they would have drafted JJ or Penix at #6, but they passed. The fact that they held onto DJ without giving up the farm for Maye also tells us something.

I'm quite happy as I think there is quite a bit of good football in DJ and the Giants for next year, enjoy!

They tried to move up for Maye as of earlier today. If they were picking #1, you think they go WR and keep DJ? Of course not. The WR pick has nothing to do with DJ.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 25, 2024, 09:19:41 PMhttps://x.com/NYPost_Schwartz/status/1783666790960075021

Eyes popping out of his skull excited.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 25, 2024, 09:17:47 PMThem being done with Jones and drafting a Qb weren't mutually exclusive. They can be done with Jones and not draft a Qb. They weren't calling the patriots for a Wr the past week.

Agreed. If the Giants don't steal some wins with Devito and pick top-3, the Giants are taking a QB. This doesn't signal confidence in DJ. It's a plan for when they move on from him.