Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Philosophers on April 14, 2024, 09:14:47 AMI think the Giants feel if they get better OL play especially in pass rush plus get a WR1 and add another RB or TE that a healthy DJ can be a top 12 or maybe top 10 QB and that they can win with that.  I also think they are less concerned than fans are about the injury history and conclude better protection insures against that.  This is the reason they go WR at 6 and maybe RB in round 2 or 3.  If DJ fails, Dabs will be gone and a new coach will then go get another QB in 2025 however the offense will now have a true X WR1, plus a good WanDale and Jalin and a young RB to build around a new rookie QB.

Jones failing is not necessarily going to get anyone fired.  They inherited him.  For all we know, behind closed doors, Schoen and Daboll may be saying that Jones is not the answer and want to replace him.  However, also saying they don't want to give up too much for someone like McCarthy as they may not see him as that much better. 

2nd worst: they take Nix or Pennix at 6

3rd worst: give up a boatload to move to 4th to take McCarthy.

Best: They trade down to 8-10 and still get one of the big WR or OT.

2nd best.  draft a wr or ot at 6.

Quote from: kartanoman on April 14, 2024, 02:34:00 PMAs should be the case.

In unrelated playoff-impacting hockey, a sad ending to a team which has put together a nice run to close out their season. I, for one, am disappointed and sad to see them leave town:

Sources - Coyotes players told team is relocating to Utah

Hockey has had nearly three decades to take root here and it simply hasn't been successful. The team, the head coach and players deserve far better than what they've been given and, so, it was the right decision for them to go to a place where they will be welcomed and have a chance to take root, grow and achieve far more than what they could under all the constraints here in Phoenix. Mullet Arena was a unique, surreal experience to take in an NHL game, with the Rangers, no less, but with a 4,600 seat capacity, the players have to sacrifice, the revenue stream isn't there and the owner came to grips and did the right thing by making it known his intention to sell.

For a lot of reasons I want the Rangers to go all the way, to say I was able to see them up close and personal in Phoenix would be perhaps the most important of all.

To the Coyotes, I wish them well in SLC under their new team name and uniform and may their young kids develop to challenge and dominate the west one day. In a bit of irony, they took down the Edmonton Oilers 3-2 last night in overtime; a testimony to their resilience and a tip of my hat to them with all the respect in the world for going on with the job in front of them.

Peace!

Elliot Friedman spoke about this on Saturday Headlines for HNIC.  Said what is going to be announced is the league buying the Yotes from Murelo.  League selling to Smith and moving to Utah.  HOWEVER, there will be some stipulation that if Murelo can secure land and build a suitable arena, he will be able to bring back the Coyotes.  Apparently, will be a 5-year window.  Now, I understand why the talk about Atlanta getting another team is gaining so much traction.  Remember, the Thrashers were a different situation.  New arena owners (not sure if they bought Hawks, Thrashers, arena at once, or just the arena and/or hawks) did not want thrashers in the arena and they had nowhere to play.  So, atlanta and a possibly coyotes 2.0 as one expansion.  Also talk of the Fertita's now having strong interest in a team in Houston.  In the past he said he would allow a team to use the arena, but had no interest in owning an nhl team himself.

Worst: They take Bowers at 6.

I do not care who they play in 1st round.  1) 7th-8th seed nowadays is not the same as 1985 when the 4th place teams had 60 points.   2) There isn't a team in the league they can't beat, doesn't mean they WILL win everything.  But, this team is better than a lot of fans want to give them credit.  3) Assuming the Rangers win tonight, I THINK it will be detroit.  They have a home and home with Montreal while Washington has Boston and philly. 

I think it is a good idea.  At facility, they can be monitored.  Remember how much everyone hated that Shockey and the wr's wouldn't work out with Eli?  They would all go down to Miami.  Not sure if those would be included as part of a workout bonus, but the concept is there.

Quote from: katkavage on April 12, 2024, 01:40:51 PMJones was a projected 3rd Round pick. Gettleman screwed that up. It was his incompetence as a GM, not the philosophy that was the issue. 

Jones was not a projected 3rd round pick. Argument can be made they could have taken him with 17 (or wherever they got Dexter Lawrence), but he was not dropping further than that.

If this is true, it is more ridiculous than what Chicago originally wanted for Fields.

I would not be happy.  Feel like the big prospect TE's never live up to potential.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 11, 2024, 09:34:36 AMI would be unhappy.  The Giants already have very good left tackle.  After that, the contribution to victory between an elite lineman and a solid lineman does not justify using such a high draft pick, in my opinion.

your WORST OLineman is more important than your best as the worst is who the D will attack. 

I will never complain about talking OL in round 1. 

6 --> 18 is too far to trade back in one shot.  One thing if they traded back to 8, then to 11, then to 14, then to 18. 

Quote from: T200 on April 03, 2024, 11:34:53 AMThat's a Grand Canyon-sized leap, IMO.

I mean, which acquisitions are attributed to the GM and which are attributed to the HC? It's the GM's job to acquire talent for the coach to use to get wins on the field.

I have a hard time believing Schoen and Daboll are making moves because of the Ghost of Wink, or what the media might say.

I have to agree with T200.  If Martindale was still here, does Schoen not make this deal?  Secondly, they have not yet played a game without Martindale, so how do we know the defense took a step back?  New D Coordinator may be better than Martindale.  I think this was a case of an exec maybe "thinking out loud" or spitballing/brainstorming to himself and the reporter went with it.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 03, 2024, 11:45:45 AMHow do Slayton, Hyatt, and Robinson stack up to the best in the league?

against the best in the league?  Which league?  The Ivy League? Giants wr's are better than any of the WR corps for any of the Ancient 8.  The National Football League?  Not even close to the best trios.  They are probably closer to the ivy leagues than the top of the NFL.

I don't want a TE in the first round. The "match-up nightmare" TE's that go early in the draft never seem to work out.  Off the top of my head, feel like the last one who did was Shockey.