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Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 20, 2024, 08:32:32 PMMaybe he and his agent and/or other advisers have decided there is zero upside to doing it. If you are basically certain the top three picks are going to be QBs, and the Cards have told you they're taking you if you're there, why bother? There's an outside chance you could get hurt, and if you know for sure the Cards will take you it's just not necessary. Plus I read in the Athletic that he's willing to do private workouts with teams if they want.

There are three years (2 where he was was a key player) of tape on Harrison Jr dominating at an elite program against top competition. People know what he is capable of at this point. I don't see his stock dropping because of this.

I completely agree with this take.  I never understand why top prospects from big programs bother with the combine or draft.  Their film should be enough.  Middle of road prospects?  Guys from smaller programs who may not have faced the top level of competition?  That is who needs to show what they can at the pro days and combine.

He is still on OTC.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 13, 2024, 06:15:52 PMSaban retired.

i am aware and I think the NIL is a big reason why.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 13, 2024, 07:40:38 PMI still have an incredibly hard time seeing any team in the top three parting with their pick. I'd love to be wrong and see it happen, but it's just an unbelievably hard thing for me to envision. All three are incredibly QB-needy (assuming the Bears are moving on from Fields which seems close to certain), and this is the best QB draft in some time.

The other thing is, in the event that this were going to somehow happen, I see zero chance that our 2025 first rounder would not be part of the equation, regardless of what any "reports" have claimed. It would cost us that pick plus a decent bit more. The value of going from 6 to 3 (or 1 or 2) this year is exorbitant. If one of these teams' picks is actually for sale, rest assured there will be other suitors, and they will hold our feet to the fire. As they should.

It is not just about needing a QB.  For arguments sake, New England may like McCarthy better than one of the top-3 and feel they can trade down and still get him.  I always say this with the NFL and NHL draft, experts can rank the guys all they want.  "Draft gurus" can run 345,192 mocks.  One thing they all have in common is NONE of them are actually making the picks.  Chicago could for arguments sake, be ready move on from Fields,  but may not love any of these prospects as much as others.  Could decide to trade down for a haul and pick up a QB later or pickup someone in FA as a filler.

Thought last night was a huge win.  Igor with a 2nd straight shutout.  However, thought overall the team played very well defensively.  Had a few moments where the teams went back and forth and the defense was lost.  But, that was an exception. 

Quote from: kartanoman on March 13, 2024, 05:46:17 PMWhere do Igor and Quickie rank among the all-time Ranger goalie tandems in team history? For those of you with a little more history under your belt than I do (NOTE: I started following the Rangers in 1978-79), the choice is obvious. But see who else made the top five in the following article:

New York Rangers Top Goalie Tandems Ranked

Enjoy!

Peace!

Without looking at it, they are by far the best.  However, they won't have the run that Beezer-Richter had together in terms of longevity (Igor and Quick are better than both of them).  People get nostalgic for Giacomin, so I am sure he and Gilles Villemeure (his autograph is like a work of art, btw).  However, have spoken to a few people whose opinion I trust that were watching back then and all have said Giacomin was a bit overrated and was outplayed by Cheevers in 72. 

edit: just looked.  In terms of pure talent, it is far and away Igor and Quick.  Again, longevity as Rangers will hurt them on these lists.

Saban is just being pissy because he is not going to be able to deal with players who are actual making money for themselves and not just stuffing his pockets. 

Quote from: BluesCruz on March 13, 2024, 05:15:00 PMnow pull a Denver/Pittsburg/Wilson  and make Jones disappear

This is a thread about running backs.

he signing with browns.  cant post link to twitter at work

Quote from: AZGiantFan on March 12, 2024, 12:04:30 PMWhat in the world are you talking about?  Jones is almost surely gone after this year and they don't have to negotiate with Thibs until 2026, 2027 if they exercise his fifth year option.

We say that, but watch him have a big year and then next February the arguments about him staying or going will be epic.

For minimum?  And, by "minimum" I mean federal minimum wage, not league minimum as per the CBA.

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 12, 2024, 08:20:00 AM@londonblue

Excellent summary  Just one update, CB DW signed elsewhere


Even having slept on it and listened to two podcasts on the subject, I am still at a loss in terms of understanding what the Giants are thinking in terms of overall vision and strategy.  The heavy spending suggests that perhaps they see a big cap reduction in booting DJ from their roster in the future.  On the other hand, the spending of draft capital limits their ability to ensure they get a QB prospect they want.

Perhaps a lesser QB like Rattler or Pratt is in the team's future.

Schoen continues the Giant's trend of having one foot in the rebuild camp and the other foot in the win now camp.  I am not sure that success is possible with this approach.

If you are thinking re-build in the terms of trade as many as you can for picks and build, it will never work in NFL.  I think it is simple, he is putting cap resources into what he (and most) deem the more important positions (OL, CB, DL, QB) and possibly WR.  RBs are just not worth it.  1) They are too reliant on the OL.  2) they take a beating.  3) the "gamebreakers" dont really break games.

Quote from: FL GMAN on March 12, 2024, 12:42:53 PMFor those that think the Giants gave up too much for Burns it has now been revealed that 2 years ago the Rams offered 2 1st rounders and a second rounder.

But that is when he was under his rookie deal, no?  Changes the trade value tremendously.  I dont think it was too much, but they had to give up picks AND pay him A LOT of $.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on March 12, 2024, 12:24:52 PMActually the Giants average TOP was 29:26.  Hardly 'never'.  The defense just stunk because they couldn't stop the run.  Bottom 5 in rushing defensive metrics.

why let facts get in the way?

Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 11, 2024, 09:25:16 PMYup Barkley, the best offensive player on the team for the last half decade was the biggest mistake.   


It wasn't taking Daniel Jones over Josh Allen (DE and others) or not drafting Micah Parson or even taking Kadarius Toney over Christian Darrisaw....DeAndre Baker was a much better pick too..it was Barkley that was the worst.

Best offensive player on a team that went 35-65-1 since he was drafted.  His fault or not, this isn't 1992.  Can't have an offense revolving around a RB.