Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: FL GMAN on March 12, 2024, 12:42:53 PMFor those that think the Giants gave up too much for Burns it has now been revealed that 2 years ago the Rams offered 2 1st rounders and a second rounder.

But that is when he was under his rookie deal, no?  Changes the trade value tremendously.  I dont think it was too much, but they had to give up picks AND pay him A LOT of $.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on March 12, 2024, 12:24:52 PMActually the Giants average TOP was 29:26.  Hardly 'never'.  The defense just stunk because they couldn't stop the run.  Bottom 5 in rushing defensive metrics.

why let facts get in the way?

Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 11, 2024, 09:25:16 PMYup Barkley, the best offensive player on the team for the last half decade was the biggest mistake.   


It wasn't taking Daniel Jones over Josh Allen (DE and others) or not drafting Micah Parson or even taking Kadarius Toney over Christian Darrisaw....DeAndre Baker was a much better pick too..it was Barkley that was the worst.

Best offensive player on a team that went 35-65-1 since he was drafted.  His fault or not, this isn't 1992.  Can't have an offense revolving around a RB.

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 11, 2024, 02:35:30 PMI wasn't one of them, I didn't buy into the claim of a thumb injury as the reason for his serious decline

Me neither.  When Seattle re-signed him to big money I said that was the end of the Seahawks.

Quote from: LennG on March 11, 2024, 09:15:37 PMJust when did McKinney become over-rated? He was the highest-rated safety, played every snap of t he season, and had a great season. I wished the Giants had kept him.

Not so much HE is overrated.  It is just, like Barkley, plays a position that is not worth investing heavy money.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2024, 04:53:46 PMBarkley had 70 more yards that Singletary and the Eagles paid 47 million instead of us paying 16, how do the Giants possibly look dumb here?

Because Schoen didn't trade Barkley in October?

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 11, 2024, 08:38:18 PMOr by keeping him around after the deadline during an utterly horrific season knowing we have absolutely no intention of tagging or signing him.

Oh wait, forget I said that....

So, should he sign him to a dumb deal just because he didnt trade him in October?  Secondly, we dont know what Schoen was thinking about Barkley's future in October.

I think people need to get over the fact that Barkley was a #2 overall pick and the "face of the franchise".  RB's are just not worth paying unless you already have a complete team and the cap space to make a serious run at a Super Bowl.  I think we all can agree, that is not the Giants.   It was a mistake to draft him at #2, I have been saying it since the day it happened.  Don't need to make it worse by throwing good money after bad.

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 11, 2024, 07:53:40 PMHe could have gotten draft capital (and set the team up to grab an elite QB prospect by being in the top 3 draft spots by trading Barkley and McKinney last season when they were out of the playoffs.

Yeah, would have been nice to have an elite QB prospect.  Those have worked out so well the last 5-6 years.  Guys like Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Wilson, Lance, Jones, Murray.  Burrow and Lawrence are not enough to change my mind on these elite QB Prospects.  What it tells me is these teams no longer know how to ascertain how these college QBs will translate to the pros.  Even if I give you Murray as he did look promising his first few years.   Besides, Barkley did nothing against New England.  Not as if he had huge games against Washington and Green Bay. They could have won those games without him.

Quote from: Philosophers on March 11, 2024, 09:27:53 AMEliwasRobbed has to be a new name for BluesCruz or someone else like him.  The similarities of hysteria, no facts just ridiculous opinions and posts matches up perfectly.

exactly what I was thinking and again, it seems to happen every year around this time.

No problem letting Barkley walk for nothing.  Not paying RB's.  They are a dime a dozen.

Much rather have this guy at this money than Barkley at what he is getting.  Singletary actually plays football games.

Quote from: jimc on February 11, 2024, 03:34:05 PMI'm with you! The change in the game since I started watching is crazy.  Gone from a sport to almost total glitz entertainment. But, that's what the new fans want. Today will be the Taylor Swift show. The NFL will enjoy thousands and thousands of new viewers that they didn't have to spend one penny to market. Just viewing to get a glimpse of Swift. Occasionally, we may get a glimpse of football. There will be sooooo many shots of Swift you'll think you're at a concert.

exaggerate much? 

Quote from: MightyGiants on February 12, 2024, 09:03:09 AMThat game was painfully long in my opinion.  4+ hours for a football game is too damn long in my opinion.

no, it is not too long.

Well, he did have a HUGE game against the Eagles to close out last season.