Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: T200 on August 14, 2020, 02:00:03 PM
"You remember your business associate, Marcellus Wallace, don't you?"

"Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead."

Quote from: Bob In PA on July 30, 2020, 11:28:29 AM
H-Town: There isn't any.  The assertion about Big Pharma is mine alone (at this time). 

However, I believe as events unfold you may see more and more of a connection.

The part about "rattling bones" is just a (weak) joke to reinforce my point that this guy is imminently qualified to have his views undergo serious consideration. 

Bob

I understand the "rattling bones" part, which is why I looked at the substance of his opinions. He did not, as Dr. Immanuel did, state broadly that HCQ is a "cure" for COVID-19. He was careful to limit his opinion to a specific cross-section of potential patients. And he certainly didn't proclaim there's no need for masks because of HCQ. So I don't think that because I can at least understand Dr. Fisch's point (whether I agree or not) means that Dr. Immanuel's should be equally credited.

I'm sure there is money to be made in vaccines. Look at Moderna's stock in the recent months. But given that the article you posted has Dr. Fisch taking issue with Dr. Fauci's reticence to promote HCQ without a random standardized test, then turning around and saying that there's money in vaccines, one would reasonably infer that you're implying Dr. Fauci is refusing to acknowledge HCQ to promote the medical industry's capitalization of a COVID vaccine market. To me, that is a tenuous connection at best given Dr. Fauci's reputation. What I see is two doctors disagreeing about what level of evidence they need to support the clinical use of a drug.

Quote from: Bob In PA on July 30, 2020, 11:14:16 AM
ATTENTION ALL "SCIENTISTS"

The same guy Rich peed on last week (because he is "only" a professor of epidemiology and Director of Yale's Molecular Cancer Epidemiology Laboratory) is back. 

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/yale-epidemiologist-accuses-fauci-running-disinformation-campaign

Follow the money, guys!  Big Pharma stands to make a fortune by developing covid vaccines, and they can't allow puny little hydroxychloroquine to get in the way of all those profits.

Bob

PS. Hey, maybe this guy can be videotaped hunched over a pot of boiling rat tails and stirring it with a voodoo stick while shaking a bag of bones.

"Risch argued that, while hydroxychloroquine is not a universally effective treatment..." i.e. its not going to replace a vaccine. He's saying there are limited cases where evidence suggests HCQ is helpful, despite the absence of random standardized testing to support it. And one of the caveats is that the patients need to be "high-risk." So again, not going to replace a vaccine for most of the population even presuming he's correct. I fail to see the connection between the article and your assertions.

Quote from: Bob In PA on July 29, 2020, 12:55:25 PM
Rich: The answer to your question is "no."  Try again.  WHY is there such desperation to crush the free speech of actual doctors who have had success and want to tell you about it?  Bob

Stop talking about free speech being "crushed." Your 1st Amendment Right protects you from the government chilling your speech. Nothing of the sort is occurring here. Anyone is free to question the credentials, sanity, and medical conclusions of a person who has openly discussed her belief that the government is run by reptilians and aliens, and that infertility is caused by your spirit having intercourse with demons.

Quote from: MightyGiants on July 29, 2020, 10:41:25 AM
Texans Are Now Dying Every Six Minutes From COVID-19

https://www.newsweek.com/texans-are-now-dying-every-six-minutes-covid-19-1521337

If you saw how people down here have been behaving since Memorial Day, you wouldn't be surprised. My office was set to fully reopen on July 1 and is now indefinitely at 10%. They have had to send multiple emails about conduct and observing precautions in this time to people who are supposed to be professionals. We may be plateauing, but I don't know that we'll come down any time soon.