Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Just_jimmy on April 25, 2024, 08:55:08 PMPointless pick when we don't have the position that actually matters.

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JJ McCarthy doesn't fix that for at least a year, if at all.

Yep! I'm down with this pick.

Let's go Nabers!

Quote from: Rosehill Jimmy on April 25, 2024, 08:43:31 PMIf Nabers goes to LAC do we go Odunze or JJ?  Will Minn move up.

I would make the Vikings trade and see what happens.

Quote from: Trench on April 25, 2024, 08:41:12 PMWho do we think Chargers pick?

WR... Hoping Odunze.

Real question is the Chargers at this point. If they stand pat and pick WR/OT, things get interesting to for the Giants.

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on April 25, 2024, 10:33:06 AMI'm just glad we're in position to make that choice. Hate being bad enough to be drafting at no.6, but it beats the hell out of drafting at 17 or 21. The most fun IMHO, is in the top 6 picks this year
 

We usually bemoan the Giants being outside the blue-chipper range. Not so this year.

Nothing can be perfect. I'll be happy (and thus cautiously optimistic) with any of Maye, Nabers, or Odunze. And of course, there is still the entire rest of the draft as well (for naysayers to criticize as well!).

Quote from: madbadger on April 24, 2024, 11:50:36 AMPretty surprising IMHO. I would have thought that wide receiver would have the lowest miss rate and quarterback the highest. Instead receiver has the highest miss rate while quarterback is in the middle of the pack.

https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1783084094001172969?s=61&t=8pY1fIic9mTDjk4JVJPt9w

20 years of data probably skews things. The game has changed drastically since then, and I'd imagine corresponding "hit" and "miss" rates. But a more narrow approach would probably give you sample sizes too small to draw from.

Quote from: madbadger on April 23, 2024, 11:52:48 AMIMHO both Schoen and Daboll are going to get at least four years, especially after they squeezed a playoff appearance out of a relatively untalented team. Mara is on record as saying that we can't continue to keep cycling through head coaches every three years. I suppose Daboll could be gone at the end of the year if he becomes more dictatorial and erratic than this past year but I think Schoen is safe.

I can only see Daboll gone with not just a bad season, but a nuclear meltdown season. Everything has to go wrong and he has to respond to it poorly. Outside of that, I think he gets year 4 (now a survivably-bad season might make the question of him getting a second contract more murky, but that's a different concept).

I agree Schoen is going to get more rope, as this roster was laughably bad and poorly constructed when he came to the team. His first draft class is just entering their third season. There is some promise in that group (Kayvon, Wan'Dale, Flott, Belton, McFadden), even with warts (Neal, Ezeudu), that I think you give him the benefit of the doubt.

Kerry Collins led the Giants to the Superbowl in 2000 and in his 2002 season, he was fourth in the NFL in passing yards. Jones hasn't come close to the achievements of Collins and is perpetually a injury risk. There would be no "chaos." The only reason drafting of a QB may(e) be relatively surprising is not because the Giants don't covet one, but because their draft position may not afford them the opportunity to get one of the top prospects. But make no mistake, if the Giants were picking in the top 3 of the draft, there would be zero doubt they would take a QB. So there is little reason for "chaos"--instead, only excitement--if the draft board falls differently than anticipated and gives the Giants a windfall.

Steep drop. Probability is that 2025 pick is in the 20s. But if there was another bad season for the Giants in 2024-2025, could that additional 1st rounder help facilitate a trade up for a QB (if they weren't already in position)? I would imagine Schoen is considering such possibilities. If I'm the Giants, I stay pat at pick number 6.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 10, 2024, 06:48:53 PMYou could also point out that Reid never won a Super Bowl without Steve Spagnoluo as his DC or Travis Kelcy as his TE

Why would I? QB is the most important position on the field and Mahomes is a generational superstar. This was a thread about QBs. The other comment mentioned Reid's ability with QBs and I was identifying that the primary reason he has such a reputation is Mahomes.

Quote from: TONKA56 on April 10, 2024, 05:02:17 PMContrary to popular belief, Mahomes didn't just happen in a vacuum. He was assisted in reaching his potential as a pro by the best QB friendly head coach since Bill Walsh.

Despite being the "best QB friendly head coach" in 30 years (in your estimation), Reid never won the Superbowl until he had Mahomes. His reputation when he left Philly was a coach who could not win the big one, despite very talented squads (recall the putative "Dream Team"). Mahomes has done a ton for Reid's legacy. My statements also do not imply anything other than Reid is a very good coach.

Very disappointed.