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Quote from: Bob In PA on April 21, 2024, 04:22:57 PMEd: I get it but IMO too many of us here view this year's draft in a QB-centric manner, while I personally tend to think the Giants will draft no QB at all. With only six picks (barring some move that lands us one or two extra) IMO it's at least highly doubtful they will even take one on day three. In summation, rather than getting excited, I'm "steeling" myself for the aftermath here if my prediction is correct.    Bob

That's the point, the overall dynamic is something we haven't seen in quite some time. It parallels 2004 and 2018 but the importance mirrors 2004.

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I can't believe you guys don't feel the significance and the excite level of this draft. Not since the 2018 draft. The impact? In 2018 the Giants still had Eli. In 2024, they are riding on Daniel Jones.

Quote from: Philosophers on April 21, 2024, 02:50:27 PMAgain you just have to think Arch feels a bit like he is carrying the burden of his immediate family and his dad versus Peyton and Eli. 

Depends on the man but it is a lot to heap on his shoulders.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 21, 2024, 01:13:16 PMGood point on Texas paying Ewers to come back.

Arch is almost destined to fall short of expectations, because no high school player that I can recall anytime recently has been hyped to the degree he has. We have been hearing about him for three years now or more. He will have to be otherworldly to "live up" to the hype, and clearly the odds don't favor that.

I think Phil makes a good point about him being Cooper's son. I have actually read repeatedly that of the three Archie Manning sons, Cooper was the best natural athlete. I'm not saying he would have been a better QB than Peyton or even Eli, but apparently as younger kids his athleticism was the best of the three of them.

Cooper was a WR and an up-and-coming prospect. He was diagnosed with Spinal Stenosis and it ended any hopes he had of a football career. It must have been devastating for the kid. I read somewhere a while back that he was the best athlete of all the Manning brothers.

I beg to differ on the play caller for the Giants. It's somewhat of a concern for me. Last season it seemed completely out of touch with what was going on on the field for several games.

Just go back and watch the first Dallas game. The Pass Protection struggled yet most of the routes came out of 11 personnel and intermediate to deep routes. Many outside the numbers. With the speed and quickness of Campbell, Shep, Hyatt and later in the season WDR, when there even was a shallow crosser or Dig, it was Waller or Slayton. Never testing the middle of the field in that game and completely void of any shallow mesh. Of course the couple of times there was a crosser, DJ missed its timing or he took off.

My concern is whether they draft a WR like Nabors or Odunze, how effective can they be and if they draft Maye, will he have the time to make those deep throws.

Under the current situation, the most effective QB's for the Giants would likely be Daniels who is out of reach or Bo Nix but they would need to change up those route combinations. They went too often to what DJ said he favored in the Hi-Low deep to intermediate.

I don't know who was responsible for the playbook more, Daboll or Kafka. Even the run plays were so obvious because they felt they needed additional blockers for those rushing schemes and it often was an X or Z only going out. Gone were the plays where there were rush and pass options.

Maybe it's just my perception. 

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Similar throwing motion and tight delivery to David Carr. It was something how he was able to air that deep ball with his elbow in tight to his chest.

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Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 21, 2024, 05:47:48 AMI think it could be the most important draft in 20 years if they land a franchise QB who can lead this franchise for the next 15-plus years. If they don't, it could still be an impactful draft, but I'm not sure it will be the most important in two decades.

If they draft the wrong QB that could set them back another five years and impact the coaching staff. Then how do they replace that QB. If he is the right QB, it could be a decision that carries them to a championship. If they don't draft a QB, or one later in the draft, they will be tied to Jones for a year or even the length of his contract. Jones and Lock might be a picture definition of QB hell. The 2025 QB class may be just poor enough to let them hang on to Jones if he somehow wins 8-9 games this year. Then it might get into their heads that he's the guy.

The drafting of Eli while they had a good QB in Collins was a decision that impacted them for the life of his career.

All this may seem like a may this or could be that, however the scenarios are not outside the realm of actual possibilities.

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The most important draft for the NY Giants in 20 years. It will determine the fate of this team for the next decade.

Don't tease me now!

Quote from: Bob In PA on April 20, 2024, 03:18:27 PMEd: I'm too lazy to look it up, but I know there is one QB in the 1st-round-worthy chatter who spent "too many" years in college and is a few years older than the others.  Is Nix that guy?  Bob

Too many? Why is that a problem when these QB's play into their mid to late 30's? Yes, bo Nix and Penix are the most mature and experienced QB's in this draft.